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Francis Wants an Ecumenical Recognition of a "Papacy Without Content"
Gloria TV ^ | June 13, 2024 | Gloria TV

Posted on 06/14/2024 12:55:35 PM PDT by ebb tide

Francis Wants an Ecumenical Recognition of a "Papacy Without Content"

The two Cardinals Koch and Grech presented on June 13 a 150-page paper on how to "reshape" the papacy.

It is called "The Bishop of Rome" and was signed by Francis. The text gives a historical and descriptive synthesis of developments and opinions on the papacy.

Koch hopes for a "new understanding" of the papacy that could be "recognised by all concerned" which includes countless schismatic and heretical groups.

The Pope should only be accepted by the many Christian sects as an "honorary head", including some kind of "primacy of proclamation and witness".

Under the subtitle "Principles for the exercise of primacy in the 21st century" the text suggests a change in the understanding of the papacy that would be at the service of "ecumenism" and "synodality". "Synodality" is another term for Conciliarism, the belief that councils hold greater authority than the Pope, which was condemned by the council of Basel-Ferrara-Florenz in the 15th century.

The document presents "the mutual interdependency of primacy and synodality at each level of the Church and the consequent need for a synodal exercise of primacy" as a "general agreement".

Synodality should mean giving more power to the “regional” levels of the Church, and “a continuing ‘decentralisation’ inspired by the model of the ancient patriarchal Churches [which were under the papacy].”

This includes reflection on the authority [= power] of national bishops' conferences.

The heart of the document is a call in number 178 for “a Catholic ‘re-reception’, ‘re-interpretation’, ‘official interpretation’, ‘updated commentary’ or even ‘rewording’ of the teachings of Vatican I.” On the contrary, the 'Jurisdictional Primacy' of Vatican I defined as a dogma the pope's supreme, full, immediate, and universal power over the entire Church.

The document adds: “These teachings were deeply conditioned by their historical context [= "wrong" today], and suggest that the Catholic Church should look for new expressions and vocabulary faithful to the original intention but integrated into a communio ecclesiology and adapted to the current cultural and ecumenical context.”

The next paragraph 179 attempts to limit the papal power to the city of Rome, “A greater accent on the exercise of the ministry of the Pope in his own particular Church, the diocese of Rome, would highlight the episcopal ministry he shares with his brother bishops, and renew the image of the papacy.”

Finally, the oneness/unity of the Church is attacked: “It seems particularly necessary to clarify the meaning of the expression ‘universal Church’.”

It is clear that these proposals cannot be implemented under Francis who stands for centralism, authoritarianism and tyranny.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: apostatepope; frankenchurch; morepopenews; papacy
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1 posted on 06/14/2024 12:55:35 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

Ping


2 posted on 06/14/2024 12:56:44 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Alta vendita, baby!


3 posted on 06/14/2024 12:56:50 PM PDT by xoxox
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To: Oystir
Here's your new and improved "papacy", foister:

The Pope should only be accepted by the many Christian sects as an "honorary head", including some kind of "primacy of proclamation and witness".

Just what all the all heretics wanted! I'm sure you're pleased.

4 posted on 06/14/2024 12:59:42 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Why has this guy not been stoned? (not high, but like with real STONES)

How can you Catholics belong to a religion with Satan’s demon as its head?

The head of MY church is Jesus Christ.


5 posted on 06/14/2024 1:04:04 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: ebb tide

This is the mark of the emerging One World Church and it appears Francis wants to be its head. Christ without the cross, a purely human guru who wishes all to get together around the campfire of globalism and universal brotherhood.
This is serious stuff, folks, and it’s fulfilling prophecies before our very eyes.

Pray, keep the Faith, and try to keep your sanity as the world implodes. This too shall pass but not without some first-class suffering.


6 posted on 06/14/2024 1:08:28 PM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: faucetman

we gud, thanx


7 posted on 06/14/2024 1:09:51 PM PDT by xoxox
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To: ebb tide

Speaking as a Catholic, this just moves our church toward being
the one world church in Revelation with a false prophet at it’s head,
subject to the Beast...


8 posted on 06/14/2024 1:16:26 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ by)
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To: ebb tide
Ready to embrace the U.N. Void, are they?
9 posted on 06/14/2024 2:04:40 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman (The Gates of hell shall not prevail against you)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I used to interact with Catholics a lot back in the mid 70's to 1980 or so. I lived a few hundred feet from The Cathedral Basilica of St. Louis.

There is no way the priests and sisters that I came to know would believe what has happened to the church, they would have been aghast.

That was really not that long ago... how has this all changed so fast?

I did a streetview and here's a pic of my old apartment, the arrow points to my room.. I could see the dome of the cathedral from my bedroom window... it is an architectural marvel, a divine edifice.

At the time the Central West End of St Louis was a safe place to live... not so much now. I live about 100mi from there now but do not visit, it's just not safe. :-/


10 posted on 06/14/2024 2:15:38 PM PDT by Bobalu (I can’t even feign surprise anymore... And I am tired of the 🐂 💩!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Correction:

You’re speaking as an ex-Catholic.


11 posted on 06/14/2024 2:30:08 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

No ebb, once a Catholic, always a Catholic.


12 posted on 06/14/2024 2:54:14 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: Bobalu

Nice picture.

Frankly some of us expected the rot and worse in the future.


13 posted on 06/14/2024 2:55:08 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
No ebb, once a Catholic, always a Catholic.

If that's true, then Papa Frank was never Catholic.

14 posted on 06/14/2024 3:04:11 PM PDT by Tell It Right (Galatians 6:14 -- May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Tell that to you fellow ex-Catholics, who, like you, never cease to attack the One, Holy, Catholic and Church.


15 posted on 06/14/2024 5:45:09 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

It’s you brother ebb.
Consider going to confession.
This all seemed to begin when you advocated for Pachamama to be canonized .

I tried to warn you.


16 posted on 06/14/2024 5:51:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Another common trait among you ex-Catholics is your false witness against practicing Catholics on this forum.


17 posted on 06/14/2024 6:09:02 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I feel for you brother ebb… so there’s that.


18 posted on 06/14/2024 6:12:20 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: ebb tide

Tell that to you fellow ex-Catholics, who, like you, never cease to attack the One, Holy, Catholic and Church.
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I think the problem goes back to the Council of Trent and them attacking the Pauline epistles with their anathemas. It was also rather ironic since semi-Pelagianism was condemned at the Council of Orange and then Trent effectively made semi-Pelagianism the dogma of the Church.

Ephesians 2:8-9


19 posted on 06/14/2024 7:41:13 PM PDT by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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To: chickenlips

Sorry. I don’t agree with what you think.


20 posted on 06/14/2024 8:24:22 PM PDT by ebb tide
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