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Women suing Kentucky for religious freedom of abortion head to court
Live Action News ^ | May 20, 2024 | Cassy Fiano-Chesser

Posted on 05/20/2024 10:13:10 PM PDT by Morgana

In 2022, three Jewish women sued the state of Kentucky over its law protecting preborn children from abortion, claiming the law violates their religious freedom. Nearly two years later, they’re getting their day in court.

Jessica Kalb, Sarah Baron, and Lisa Sobel claim that the law’s statement that life begins at conception is a religious belief and that the law prevents them from growing their family. Kalb, who has polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS), has nine embryos currently frozen, but she isn’t willing to use them out of fear that there may be complications. “I have these nine embryos that are viable. I only needed one transfer to become pregnant,” she said. “The way the law is written, I could have to deal with nine pregnancies. And I’m 33, about to be 34. It’s a really scary situation, especially to have all of this publicly known.”

The Kentucky law states that abortion is only allowed if the woman is facing imminent danger of death or permanent injury. Since abortion is permissible when a woman’s life is at risk, any complications Kalb and the others are concerned about may be a diagnosis for the child. Even some pro-lifers wrongly believe that its justifiable to kill a child through abortion because they have a disability or a life-limiting condition.

Sobel likewise said she is scared to try IVF again, which she has tried unsuccessfully in the past. She claimed that under the law, she would not be able to keep any of her embryos frozen indefinitely or have them destroyed. “Being a Kentuckian is who I am,” Sobel said. “I shouldn’t have to leave in order to grow my family. I shouldn’t have to leave because the legislators don’t want to recognize that my faith matters too.”

Lindsey Keiser, a lawyer with the Kentucky Attorney General’s office, dismissed these arguments. “IVF is permissible, and the disposal of embryos treated by IVF but not yet implanted will not trigger criminal penalties,” she said. “The only statutory restriction on IVF relates to public medical facilities.”

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A lawyer for one of the women, Benjamin Potash, argued, “Kentucky is codifying the religious viewpoint that life begins at conception. And they’ve defined the fertilized egg as a human being,” he said.

Keiser dismissed this claim. “The commonwealth’s interest in preserving life encompasses fostering respect for the sanctity of human life and supporting the ability of the human being to live for however long that might be,” she said, referring to non-viable pregnancies. “Kentucky’s Constitution has never required complete absence of religion or religious references in state activity or statutes.”

The fact that life begins at fertilization is not a religious belief; it is a scientific one. Dr. Tara Sander Lee is a molecular geneticist with over 20 years of experience in academic and clinical medicine, including a fellowship at Harvard Medical School and Boston Children’s Hospital, and a molecular pathology inspector for the College of American Pathologists. She explained that it is a scientific certainty that life begins at fertilization.

“At the moment a sperm fuses with an egg (known as fertilization or conception), a new, unique human being that is genetically distinct from both parents comes into existence,” Lee explained in a video for Live Action. “Gender, ethnicity, hair color, eye color, and countless other traits are determined at that moment. This genetic blueprint remains the same for his or her entire life, and no other human being past or future will have one identical to it.”

Despite this scientific fact, a similar lawsuit was successful in Indiana. A group comprising five women, as well as Hoosier Jews for Choice, filed the suit, claiming the law violated Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA), in a case brought by the ACLU. This decision was roundly criticized, including by Secular Pro-Life. Kelsey Hazzard, the founder and president, said the ruling was so broad, that it essentially made human sacrifice legal under Indiana law in the name of religious freedom. “If a state permits a single legal abortion, by this logic, it must permit abortions for anyone who claims a religious motivation,” she said, adding, “And here’s the kicker: they forgot that Indiana has similar exceptions to homicide. […] Because Indiana has legislated at least two exceptions to its homicide law, Indiana does not have a compelling interest in enforcing that law against religiously motivated murderers. Let the legal human sacrifices and honor killings begin!”


TOPICS: Judaism; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; jewish; kentucky; prolife
"In 2022, three Jewish women sued the state of Kentucky over its law protecting preborn children from abortion, claiming the law violates their religious freedom."

"In 2022, three Jewish women sued the state of Kentucky over its law protecting preborn children from abortion, claiming the law violates their religious freedom."

"In 2022, three Jewish women sued the state of Kentucky over its law protecting preborn children from abortion, claiming the law violates their religious freedom."

I repeated that several times just in case you missed it.

I have a copy of the Old Testament here beside me, where did I miss that abortion was a part of the Jewish faith???

Oh wait.. IT WAS NOT. It was part of the cult of Molech.

Look Jessica Kalb, Sarah Baron, and Lisa Sobel if you honor Moses, Abraham and Elijah then please don't call yourself Jewish. I don't know what they called Molech worshipers in the Old Testament but that is what you are, so call yourselves that.

1 posted on 05/20/2024 10:13:10 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

There is NOTHING holy about killing babies unless you’re a sick evil person who worships the devil!


2 posted on 05/20/2024 10:16:35 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Morgana

Are they claiming to be Jewish or Pagans? Because you can’t be both.

If Jewish, then:
“You shall not let any of your descendants pass through the fire to Molech” (Leviticus 18)


3 posted on 05/20/2024 10:19:25 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Morgana

Yeah, I was trying to wrap my head around that too.
Reading it was like being informed that 2+2 equals “hamster” and being told that it is correct.


4 posted on 05/20/2024 10:20:56 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Morgana
Trust the Science!

Fact: Life begins at conception.

Trust the Science!



5 posted on 05/20/2024 10:35:17 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Morgana

Jewish women in particular appear to be fans of abortion. More so than any other religious group, probably more than atheists.


6 posted on 05/20/2024 10:54:35 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Morgana

In vitro fertilization is already sinful if any embryos are discarded. That is ipso facto abortion.


7 posted on 05/20/2024 11:04:33 PM PDT by Right Brother (Pray for God's intervention to stop UMCRevMom's invasion of Free Republic.)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance
The Jews who came from Russia and Eastern Europe in the 1910s and 1920s were dominated by hard core leftists. American Jews who settled here years earlier were not radical and socialist like their latter day tribesmen. A huge percentage all hard core leftist politicians are Jewish, sad to say.

8 posted on 05/20/2024 11:09:51 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Morgana

This is the kind of thing that makes me believe our Catholic friends are right when it comes to matters like artificial insemination etc.


9 posted on 05/21/2024 12:23:02 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (America needs deliberalization like Germany needed denazification.)
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To: Morgana

Ah, but the Talmud claims to know better than YHWH.


10 posted on 05/21/2024 12:54:19 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Morgana
I’d suggest a compromise: Abortion is illegal, except for Jewish women.

(This policy recommendation has been brought to you by the Third Reich.)

11 posted on 05/21/2024 3:03:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Ain't it funny how the night moves … when you just don't seem to have as much to lose.”)
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To: Morgana

Expect more of the same. Abortion is an election winner for the DEMs with women.


12 posted on 05/21/2024 5:02:33 AM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: Morgana
Jessica Kalb, Sarah Baron, and Lisa Sobel claim that the law’s statement that life begins at conception is a religious belief

Ummmmm ... it's a matter of biology. And you don't need to be a biologist to understand it.

13 posted on 05/21/2024 5:06:13 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Morgana

These “Jewish women” worship the Golden Calf, i.e. Satan. They want to sacrifice their babies to Lucifer in the guise of abortion.

The Levites knew what to do with these filthy democrat JINO scum. /spit


14 posted on 05/21/2024 5:43:01 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: Morgana

Thou shalt not kill.


15 posted on 05/21/2024 6:49:13 AM PDT by bgill (.)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

Perhaps they could avoid this problem by, hmm, I dunno, maybe keeping their panties on and the legs together.


16 posted on 05/21/2024 6:50:42 AM PDT by bgill (.)
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To: Morgana

Molech followers by their own confession.

...and now everyone knows


17 posted on 05/21/2024 6:58:58 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer (Get involved with, or start a home fellowship group. It will be the final church. ACTS 2:42-47)
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To: Morgana
Despite the desire on both sides of this issue to grab headlines, it is one that Judaism continues to struggle with.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/in-vitro-fertilization-legal-and-ethical-considerations/

There may well be a Jewish legal and ethical distinction between a fertilized egg in a test tube and a fertilized egg in a uterus. The question of the possible independent existence of a zygote has legal import. Jewish law requires the desecration of the Sabbath to preserve the existence of an embryo in the mother’s womb even less than forty days old. If there is no human fetal life outside the uterus, a superfluous fertilized ovum could be disposed of by any means, such as flushing down the drain.

An alternative course of action would be to refrain from supplying nutrients to the ovum, thereby allowing it to perish. One can redefine the question in terms of whether or not an unfertilized egg may be deemed to be of ethical import as potential life. Since the vast majority of unfertilized sperm and eggs are never fertilized and do not constitute new life, only a fertilized ovum might be considered as potential life. If a fertilized ovum were equated with human life, Jewish law would even require the expenditure of substantial sums of money to transport a superfluous fertilized ovum great distances, if necessary, for implantation into a nonovulating woman.

The Committee on Medical Ethics of the Federation of Jewish Philanthropies of New York concluded that a fertilized egg not in the womb, but in an environment–the test tube–in which it can never attain viability, does not have humanhood and may be discarded or used for the advancement of scientific knowledge.

18 posted on 05/21/2024 9:05:57 AM PDT by yelostar (Spook codes 33 and 13. See them often in headlines and news stories. )
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To: Morgana
I have a copy of the Old Testament here beside me, where did I miss that abortion was a part of the Jewish faith??? Oh wait.. IT WAS NOT. It was part of the cult of Molech.


19 posted on 05/21/2024 9:24:14 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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