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Italian diocese urges Catholics to join Muslims for prayers and meals in Ramadan
Catholic Herald ^ | March 8, 2024 | Jules Gomes

Posted on 03/09/2024 9:51:05 AM PST by ebb tide

Italian diocese urges Catholics to join Muslims for prayers and meals in Ramadan

An Italian diocese is instructing its priests to participate in Islamic rituals, citing Pope Francis’ directives on interreligious dialogue.

The Diocese of Bergamo issued a communiqué on Monday urging priests to seek out opportunities for interreligious dialogue during the “holy month” of Ramadan by invite the faithful to join in praying with Muslims and joining in the Iftar ritual meal.

The letter from the northern Italian diocese asks the faithful to pray for “a continuous realisation of all the dimensions that make up humanity desired by the Creator” and for “continuous growth in the dialogue between peoples and different faiths.”

Fr Massimo Rizzi, director of the diocese’s Office for Interreligious Dialogue who signed the directive, upset local Catholics for dating the letter according to the Islamic calendar (23 Sha’ban 1445).  

Rizzi explained that Ramadan was “a strong time (for Muslims) to promote their religious practice” as well as a month of fasting and prayer and a time of feasting and sharing.

Fr Rizzi wrote that Pope Francis had emphasised “the importance of interreligious dialogue in order to give a future to a society like ours, increasingly characterised by cultural and religious pluralism.”

Citing Pope Francis’ encyclical Fratelli tutti as well as noting the Holy Father’s gesture in signing a joint document with Grand Imam of Al Azhar Ahmed Al-Tayyeb, Rizzi urged the priests to be “authentic mediators”.

“This interreligious dialogue is a necessary condition for peace in the world and is therefore a duty for Christians as well as for other religious communities,” Rizzi added, quoting Francis’ apostolic exhortation Evangelii Gaudium.

In comments to the Catholic Herald, Islamic scholar Robert Spencer explained that “the idea of Ramadan providing a possibility of outreach to Muslims is a tragicomic display of the failures and inherent limitations of the ‘dialogue’ imperative”.

Spencer, author of over 23 books on Islam and the Middle East, said: “Ramadan is a month in which Muslims are to redouble their efforts to please Allah.

“The highest form of service to Allah, according to Muhammad, is jihad, which principally involves warfare against unbelievers.

“Every Ramadan, therefore, we see an increase in jihad attacks. The idea that this is a time to seek friendship and cooperation with Muslims is laughably naive and demonstrates abject ignorance of Islam.”

Responding to the diocesan letter’s plea for dialogue in the hope of resolving the Middle East crisis, Spencer pointed out that the Vatican has failed to address the clause in Hamas’ charter that threatens genocide against Israel.

In its preamble, the Hamas charter states, “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it”. 

Italian commentator Aldo Maria Valli criticised the diocese for urging Catholics to pray for Ramadan on Lætáre Sunday during Holy Mass, when the Church “remembers the liberation of Israel from Egyptian slavery and the liberation of the Christian people from the slavery of Satan and sin”.

In 2020, the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue began encouraging Christians to join in the Islamic iftar ritual meal during Ramadan.

While several Catholic leaders have claimed that they are participating in a communal meal that has no religious significance, Muslims insist that “Iftar is not simply a matter of having dinner but has “great significance” since it is “a combination of spiritual and physical food.”

Iftar is “a source of spiritual learning” and “a time of inspiration” as “it is the moment when physical food is converted into spiritual food,” the Spirit of Islam website clarifies. “It is a dinner combined with a spiritual experience. It is like a compulsory form of training.”

Italian Catholics have expressed concern over the diocese “not learning from mistakes” after a church in Bergamo was desecrated in November by an Aztec altar associated with the esoteric and pagan cult of Nuestra Señora de la Santa Muerte (Our Lady of the Holy Death).

Referring to the Bergamo desecration, eminent Italian novelist and historian Elisabetta Sala told the Catholic Herald that “interfaith dialogue and participation was always unidirectional” and “a losing strategy” as far as “Jesus’ Great Commission to preach the gospel to the whole world is concerned.”

“Water is being added to the wine each and every day,” Sala lamented. “Many clerics are de facto apostates who have done away with the uniqueness and definitiveness of Jesus, who claimed to be ‘the way, the truth, and the life’ and the only way to the Father.”

The pagan cult “openly accepts abortion, the use of condoms, admits transsexuals into its church and many LGBT Mexicans pray to it to protect them from homophobia and intolerance,” Italian blog Messa in Latino reported.

Witnesses reported pagans celebrating a ceremony in honor of two pagan demons of the Aztec cult, the god Mictlantecuhtli and the goddess Mictecacihuatl. Local Catholics later petitioned Bergamo’s bishop Francesco Beschi to perform an act of reparation in the church.

Bergamo’s Muslims are a fast-growing community estimated between 4,500 and 6,500, according to Giacomo Angeloni, councilor for demographic services of the local municipality.  In February, the Aquiletta hotel in Bergamo was turned into a Muslim cultural centre.

Italy’s bishops have urged interreligious dialogue as a means of deescalating tensions between conservative Italians and immigrant Islamic communities, after a historic flashpoint in 2003 when a court ruled in favour of Muslim rights advocate Adel Smith ordering the removal of crucifixes from a state primary school where his children attend.

Smith described the crucifix as a “small body on two wooden sticks”.

The Scottish convert to Islam also lobbied to have the 15th century Giovanni di Modena fresco removed from Bologna cathedral and Dante’s Divine Comedy deleted from the school syllabus since both depicted Islam’s prophet Mohammed in hell.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Worship
KEYWORDS: apostates; conciliarchurch; frankenchurch; interreligiousnuts; massimorizzi; muslimheretic
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To: ebb tide
"Thanks I'll pass.

Their mantra from the beginning to the present....Kill all the Christians and Jews"...is kinda a turn off...ya think??

21 posted on 03/09/2024 10:40:35 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ebb tide

Informative article. Thanks for posting.


22 posted on 03/09/2024 10:43:36 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: stanne
Biden doesn’t change the constitution he’s a usurper. Same thing

The Constitution is a worthless piece of paper if the President won't support and obey it. Communist Russia had freedom of religion in their constitution, but it was meaningless without government support.

23 posted on 03/09/2024 10:46:51 AM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . . ")
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To: aimhigh

No. The constitution is something all military and all public servants swear allegiance to

Not just the president.

Go learn the first thing about our country and its foundation and quit wasting my time.


24 posted on 03/09/2024 10:58:58 AM PST by stanne
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To: stanne
The constitution is something all military and all public servants swear allegiance to.

From the looks of the swamp, they swore falsely.

25 posted on 03/09/2024 11:13:48 AM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . . ")
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To: butlerweave

Are they going to reciprocate and eat ham on Easter with the Catholics?


26 posted on 03/09/2024 11:15:51 AM PST by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: ebb tide
You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me, but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.

I think that this, the First Commandment, should be enough explanation as to why this instruction to a priest is wrong.

Bishops should know better.

Allah is a false god and a Catholic priest should never step foot in a mosque.

To step inside a mosque is a mortal sin, to participate in muslim worship is even worse if that is possible.

Allah is a demon. Catholics to not even pretend to worship demons.

27 posted on 03/09/2024 11:41:15 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: ebb tide

Learn to get along with them. They will one day be your masters.


28 posted on 03/09/2024 11:43:18 AM PST by I want the USA back (Delusionary people should not be given power over normal people.)
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To: Pontiac; MDLION
Allah is a demon. Catholics (d)o not even pretend to worship demons.

It was modernist bishops who authored Lumen Gentium:

In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.

29 posted on 03/09/2024 11:57:51 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: stanne

So you’re saying lighten up...it’s Pope Francis


30 posted on 03/09/2024 12:14:31 PM PST by xp38
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To: ebb tide

I can profess to be a billionaire it does not make me one and professing to be one makes me a fraud or delusional.


31 posted on 03/09/2024 1:19:23 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: ebb tide

Here is London. Do we want to a part of this? I don’t.

https://rumble.com/v4i5yjc-the-conquest-of-london-is-nigh.html


32 posted on 03/09/2024 1:20:30 PM PST by dforest
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To: ebb tide

Whip their asses with cords and drive them from the church. Tear their vestiments off, their cossocks off, and let them return home naked, and without Jesus.

We’re at war people.


33 posted on 03/09/2024 2:07:31 PM PST by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: xp38

It long ago forfeited the right to even be called a church.


34 posted on 03/09/2024 3:47:54 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: stanne

On the contrary, it’s not *just people in the hierarchy*.
This is from the Catechism of the Catholic church.....

https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

“841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”330”


35 posted on 03/09/2024 3:59:38 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: ebb tide

DUH.


36 posted on 03/09/2024 7:39:32 PM PST by EinNYC
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