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When Churches Dismiss Bible Prophecy… They Do So To Their Own Detriment
Harbingers Daily ^ | 1/24/24 | Dr. David Reagan

Posted on 02/04/2024 1:28:03 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: Renfrew; Roman_War_Criminal

As predictable as the sunrise that someone’s first knee jerk reaction is to quote the verse about the day and hour.

And how many times do people have to repeat that nobody is claiming to know the day and hour before it finally sinks in to them.

But not knowing the specifics does NOT mean we can’t know the general that Jesus gave us LOTS of information on in Matthew 24.


21 posted on 02/04/2024 4:08:33 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: fidelis
Many churches do not reject Bible prophecy, but do reject the novel Dispensationalist interpretation of prophecy that often presents itself as the only valid Christian interpretation and that one’s validity as a true Christian depends upon it.

And who is claiming that?

Why do so many people argue against straw men they set up as if it proves a point????

22 posted on 02/04/2024 4:09:58 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Renfrew
It is coming, but the Bible itself makes clear that anyone pretending to know when is a charlatan. Live a righteous life and you will be ready. That is all a person should worry about.

What do you suppose Christ meant Mark 13:20-23

20And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. 21And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:

22For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. ****** 23But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.******

24But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

25And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

26And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

No, I do not know the 'when', but I do recognize the players... and those that have bought the deception.

23 posted on 02/04/2024 4:16:56 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Sadly too many will go off on a Wild Goose Chase on Bible Prophecy. I’ve seen too many examples in the past. Here are a few..
https://www.christiantoday.com/article/5-end-times-prophecies-that-failed/129347.htm
The failed return of Christ in 1890 as prophecied by Mormon Joseph Smith.
I have a copy of a prophecy from an anti Semitic publication from 1984 promising the destruction of Israel and the return of Christ by 1986.It didn’t happen and the writer had to make an apology.

Remember the promise of the 1980s that when Communism falls and the “Ten Toes” reunite? Communism fell and we are still waiting.
I have received several books warning us to prepare as the End Times were just a few years ahead. One I received in 1978, another in 1993. Still here.

Lots of people getting rich off of sale of end times books.

Matthew 24:
36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of [a]heaven, but My Father only.

Mark 13:32
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Acts 1:
6When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Thessalonians 5:
The Day of the Lord

5 Now concerning the times and the seasons, brothers,[a] you have no need to have anything written to you. 2 For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

Best thing you can do is live your life as if Christ would be here tomorrow, or sooner.


24 posted on 02/04/2024 4:18:42 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: roving
>> It was all rainbows and bubble gum.<<
Well said!
For my Sunday edification I have resolved to use the time more profitably. Moody's Bible Commentary is a great resource which is pleasingly insightful and informative. Today I ventured for the first time into Ecclesiastes (Ch.5) which touched upon this very topic of the proper approach to God in worship.
25 posted on 02/04/2024 4:30:54 PM PST by EliRoom8
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To: metmom

Those non-dispensational churches tend yo be liberal and really have no eschatology teaching at all.


26 posted on 02/04/2024 4:36:37 PM PST by EliRoom8
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To: metmom
And who is claiming that?

LOL. Just about everybody that ascribes to Dispensationalism, including in FR. If you'd like, I'll start tagging you every time I run into one from here on out so you won't continue to miss the obvious. 🙂

27 posted on 02/04/2024 4:38:40 PM PST by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.
28 posted on 02/04/2024 4:39:37 PM PST by EliRoom8
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To: fidelis
...the novel Dispensationalist interpretation of prophecy that often presents itself as the only valid Christian interpretation and that one’s validity as a true Christian depends upon it.

LOL. Just about everybody that ascribes to Dispensationalism, including in FR. If you'd like, I'll start tagging you every time I run into one from here on out so you won't continue to miss the obvious.

OK. Go for it. Names, too, please and links to the actual posts.

Because I have yet to see any who claim that a dispensationalist interpretation is a litmus test of the validity of one's faith.

29 posted on 02/04/2024 4:45:50 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom
OK. Go for it. Names, too, please and links to the actual posts.

LOL. Will do!

30 posted on 02/04/2024 4:49:42 PM PST by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Yup, nobody knows the DAY or HOUR but Jesus Himself told us to be aware of the signs of the season.

Matthew 24:1-35

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2024&version=NIV

So after this whole dissertation giving us indicators of his second coming, He then says in verse 36....But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

He then continues on in verse 37-51 to give more signs of the general time.

Not knowing the specifics of the day and hour does NOT mean not being able to know any of it at all ever.

If that were the case, then why did Jesus answer the disciples questions with specifics of what to look for?

31 posted on 02/04/2024 4:55:23 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: EliRoom8

Their loss.

It was a Christian sharing about the end times that played a huge role in my coming to Christ. It actually provided a safe way for me to find out more about the Bible and stuff in a very non-threatening way.


32 posted on 02/04/2024 4:57:49 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom

VERY well said! Thank you.


33 posted on 02/04/2024 5:04:36 PM PST by 3ZZZ
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To: Just mythoughts

“I do recognize the players... and those that have bought the deception.”

No you don’t. The history of the world is men for thousands of years believing they knew the truth, only to be proven wrong.

Only a fool believes himself wiser than everyone else.


34 posted on 02/04/2024 5:55:31 PM PST by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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To: metmom

I have often wondered why Jesus said nobody known the day or the hour. Did he know that part of the world is already tomorrow and the hour depends on what time zone your in?


35 posted on 02/04/2024 6:01:48 PM PST by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: Seven_0

I’m sure He knew that, but that is an interesting thought. I never considered it that way before.


36 posted on 02/04/2024 6:09:31 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Renfrew

Yes, for you Amos 8. Whole chapter, but in particular verse 11.. The Word describes who the players are.. you showed you are clueless.


37 posted on 02/04/2024 6:19:45 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Seven_0

There are many parts to what brings this flesh age to the end. One is that all souls that chose to take this flesh journey are on the Heavenly Father’s time table.. John 3.. first requirement to see the kingdom of Heaven is to be born from above…

The fallen angels described in Jude refused to take this flesh journey.. they along with Satan have already been judged to death.


38 posted on 02/04/2024 6:24:59 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
1) The Quantity — One-fourth to one-third of the Bible is prophetic in nature.

As if the author/experts know what is prophecy in order to make this kind of statement.

Red flag. Not even close. Responsible, trustworthy people know that there's no way to put a number or range on it.

39 posted on 02/04/2024 6:50:34 PM PST by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". 🔴 Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with MARS ♂️, aka every man)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Bkmrk


40 posted on 02/04/2024 6:51:43 PM PST by AmericanMermaid
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