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Can we believe the Gospels? A former chief magistrate examines the witnesses to the resurrection
creation.com ^ | 1/24 | Clarrie Briese, B.A., Diploma of Criminology

Posted on 01/22/2024 3:06:15 AM PST by spirited irish

The truth of the Resurrection stands or falls on the truth of the witnesses. Are they reliable? Of the New Testament writers, there are six witnesses to the resurrection of Jesus Christ, if we include the apostles Peter and Paul. These people have left us writings in the form of historical documents which give us their testimony concerning the resurrection.

The question is—are these historical documents reliable? Can we trust them? One way of determining whether the documents are reliable is to put the people who wrote them through the test a good magistrate or judge would put them through. The accuracy of these witnesses depends on five things: their honesty, ability, their number and consistency of their evidence, the conformity of their testimony with our own personal experience, and lastly, the coincidence of their testimony with other circumstances and facts.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Religion & Science; Theology
KEYWORDS: gospels; resurrection; truth
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1 posted on 01/22/2024 3:06:15 AM PST by spirited irish
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bkmk


2 posted on 01/22/2024 3:39:48 AM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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The truth of the resurrection does NOT depend on our opinion of it or the men who documented it.It stands on it’s own.


3 posted on 01/22/2024 3:40:18 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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”The truth of the resurrection does NOT depend on our opinion of it or the men who documented it.It stands on it’s own.”

We all agree with what you say, and I am quite sure the author of the article does too, but never-the-less as the author wrote…. “When on Easter Sunday we hear the declaration ringing in our ears once again: ‘The Lord is risen’, it is comforting to know that on the basis of highly credible evidence, we can confidently respond: ‘He is risen indeed.’”

4 posted on 01/22/2024 3:54:47 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie. Normal is not coming back, but Jesus will. )
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To: spirited irish

Yes


5 posted on 01/22/2024 3:58:37 AM PST by sipow
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Many who witnessed Christ after the resurrection were martyred because of their faith. It’s hard to believe someone would risk death over a lie.


6 posted on 01/22/2024 4:32:29 AM PST by stuckinloozeeana
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Back then, a hobby among some professionals such as Luke, was to collect stories in addition to writing stories that had circulated verbally over time.

That is, some people who were well read and also writers, sought to preserve.

Luke, Paul, plus scribes who wrote on behalf of Paul, were effectively witnesses of some of the people who personally had contact with or observed Jesus.

Back then, literature and libraries were bundled under systems of management consisting of various social, political, economic, and religious leaders, plus scholars.

There was, then, as there remains today, a variety of characters and purposes in that general body.

So, the characters and purposes affected what was stored, written, or dismissed.

The truth might survive, or not. Somebody might bury a truth, and another person might broadcast fiction.

Paul’s education and abilities lent credence to his being a witness of history; and that added some weight, as if a super notary, to the Gospels, that some detractors attempted to weaken by discrediting the Gospels on the basis of negative comments about the lower and uneducated witnesses of Jesus.


7 posted on 01/22/2024 4:44:53 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: spirited irish

Interesting. I doubt such attempts at “proof” will sway many unbelievers though.


8 posted on 01/22/2024 4:59:16 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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To: spirited irish

Paul was not a witness to the resurrection.


9 posted on 01/22/2024 5:06:52 AM PST by Jolla
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To: spirited irish

Hebrews 11:1

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.


10 posted on 01/22/2024 5:08:32 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: stuckinloozeeana
It’s hard to believe someone would risk death over a lie.
The author of the article admits that people of other faiths and beliefs have martyred themselves for an idea, so the Christian martyrs are not unique in that act, unto itself.

However, early Christian martyrs died not in protest, fight, self-defense, or that of another, or other worldly purpose. I can't think of any similar purpose of facing death; even a Buddhist who pours gasoline on himself to protest some injustice acts in self-interest and in belief of a next life. Every martyred Apostle (all but John, who suffered similarly) died for his Lord and not for himself.

Indeed, a tremendous schism in the next generation early Church regarding accepting back into the community of faith those who had taken the oath to Caesar in exchange for their lives. The utter, total belief that martyrdom is for God and nothing or no one else is unique to the faith God himself created by the same act, only for us.
11 posted on 01/22/2024 5:39:20 AM PST by nicollo ("This is FR!")
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“ The author of the article admits that people of other faiths and beliefs have martyred themselves for an idea,”

But that was an idea they believed was true. Those who deny the resurrection would have us believe the Apostles died for something they knew was a lie.

12 posted on 01/22/2024 5:54:51 AM PST by circlecity
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To: spirited irish

Gary Habermass has just published a 1000 page book analyzing the evidence for the resurrection. It is highly documented. The evidence for the resurrection is overwhelming.


13 posted on 01/22/2024 5:57:36 AM PST by circlecity
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To: stuckinloozeeana

People WILL die for a lie.

But they won’t allow themselves to be killed for a report they repeatedly asserted was true, if they themselves made it up.


14 posted on 01/22/2024 6:43:40 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: spirited irish

Bump


15 posted on 01/22/2024 6:52:15 AM PST by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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Those who deny the resurrection would have us believe the Apostles died for something they knew was a lie for which there is no available forensic-grade evidence.

Regards,

16 posted on 01/22/2024 6:53:23 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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There is there own eyewitness testimony. What other evidence could their possibly be?


17 posted on 01/22/2024 6:56:23 AM PST by circlecity
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There is there own eyewitness testimony. What other evidence could their possibly be?

There could be forensic-grade evidence. (DNA specimens, fingerprints, video recordings, etc.) Until such evidence is forthcoming (if ever), one can at best say, in the parlance of historians, "according to some sources, xyz happened."

This so-called "eyewitness testimony" does not meet modern standard for believability. Since we are unable to cross-examine the so-called "witnesses," this amounts to "hearsay evidence."

And even in courts of (criminal) law, the objective of the Prosecution is to prove that someone did something "beyond a reasonable doubt." (in civil cases, a "preponderance of evidence" is considered sufficient.)

In the case of the Resurrection, there is most certainly "reasonable doubt."

Regards,

18 posted on 01/22/2024 7:06:52 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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“There could be forensic-grade evidence. (DNA specimens, fingerprints, video recordings, etc.)”

From the first century? Really?

19 posted on 01/22/2024 7:32:33 AM PST by circlecity
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To: spirited irish

Meanwhile, the Revelation at Sinai is the only self-verifying claim of a Divine Revelation in human history. But let’s ignore that and continue to pretend that the Hebrew Bible is a chrstian document!


20 posted on 01/22/2024 8:34:17 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (בראשית ברא אלקים את השמים ואת הארץ)
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