Posted on 11/28/2023 8:38:54 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
——>Do you think your sins are forgiven ?
——>If so, under which covenant ?
If I didn’t know better, I would have thought it was Elsie posting to me (except that I don’t see any funny memes, short quips, or non-answers to my questions).
Here’s a link to a thread that does a very good job of answering these questions (my answers). I suggest reading the entire thread. However, here are some of the pertinent posts:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4181481/posts
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The Sign of the Sabbath
Exodus 31:
12And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 13Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. 14Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 15Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. 17It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Again, the covenant is CONDITIONAL. All one has to do is read why God allowed Babylon to do what they did…..desecration of the holy Sabbath, worshipping the sun, etc… 800 years of iniquity and given chance after chance after chance. THEN, they were given their LAST CHANCE, of 490 years, as prophesied in Daniel 9:24.
The Abomination that makes Desolate
https://www.biblelightinfo.com/abomination-of-desolation.htm
From the same article as just posted:
https://www.biblelightinfo.com/abomination-of-desolation.htm
Note this very carefully:
Isa 24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance [H2706 - choq = set time, Job 14:13], broken the everlasting [H5769 - ‘owlam] covenant.
Isa 24:6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.
Jer 44:22 So that the LORD could no longer bear, because of the evil of your doings, and because of the abominations which ye have committed; therefore is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse, without an inhabitant, as at this day.
Jer 44:23 Because ye have burned incense, and because ye have sinned against the LORD, and have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, nor walked in his law, nor in his statutes [H2708 - chuqqah = appointed], nor in his testimonies; therefore this evil is happened unto you, as at this day.
It is a transgression of the law of God, a changing of God’s law that breaks the everlasting covenant, that brings desolation. So just what is the everlasting covenant?
The Everlasting / Perpetual Covenant
Psa 111:7 The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure.
Psa 111:8 They stand fast for ever and ever [H5769 - ‘owlam]: holy and reverend is his name.
Deu 4:12 And the LORD spake unto you out of the midst of the fire: ye heard the voice of the words, but saw no similitude; only ye heard a voice.
Deu 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
Psa 103:18 To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.
Psa 103:19 The LORD hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all.
Exo 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual [H5769 - ‘owlam] covenant.
Exo 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever [H5769 - ‘owlam]: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Isa 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
The everlasting or perpetual covenant of Isaiah 24:5 is identified in Exodus 31:16 as the Sabbath commandment of God’s law. Changing that commandment so as to break it, brings desolation according to Isaiah 24:6.
Of course, literal and spiritual Israel, God's people, remnant, saints, throughout time. You can include Abraham in that too.
Gen 26:1And there was a famine in the land, beside the first famine that was in the days of Abraham. And Isaac went unto Abimelech king of the Philistines unto Gerar. 2And the LORD appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of: 3Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father; 4And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; 5Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Rev 12:17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 14:12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
——>Do you acknowledge that the covenant of the Sabbath is between God and Israel?
Same goes for the other 9 commandments.
Only the 100,000.
Revelation.
(144,000).
And I heard the number of the sealed, 144,000, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel. (Rev. 7:4)
Spiritual Israel
——>Do you think your sins are forgiven?
——>If so, under which covenant?
Already answered. All you have to do is read.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4181481/posts
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But what you DID see was Scripture and questions asked of YOU!
Thanks for addressing them so fully.
1 Corinthians 7:19 King James Bible
Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
Is Paul a HERETIC here?
——>But what you DID see was Scripture and questions asked of YOU!
Voluminous amounts of scripture, that you neither will, nor can explain. (you got some splainin to do)
In light of YOUR postings you think MINE are Voluminous ? - - hahaHA,
It's Scripture - it 'explains' itself to a person with understanding and discernment.
You have idea whether I can 'explain' or not. - - I do this purposely so you can reply to so many of my posts: I don't understand."
——>Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
——>Is Paul a HERETIC here?
No, Paul is not a Heretic.
19. Circumcision is nothing. Neither compliance with the Jewish rite of circumcision nor failure to do so could affect an individual’s relationship with God through faith in Jesus. Emphasis is here placed upon the truth that outward ceremonies and observances are valueless without faith in Christ (see Gal. 5:6; 6:15). The newborn child of God is accepted by Him, not by reason of any works that he may perform, but because of his faith in the great work performed for him by Christ on the cross (see John 3:16; Rom. 4:5; Eph. 2:8, 9). Abraham, whose faith is spoken of as an example for all who believe in Christ, is called the father of all who exercise a similar faith in Jesus, whether or not they are circumcised (see Rom. 4:9, 11, 12).
But the keeping. Compare Gal. 5:6; 6:15. The idea is, what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God. God does not evaluate a man’s religion by his compliance with ritual observances, but by his relationship to the principles of the divine law (see Eccl. 12:13; John. 14:15, 21, 23; 15:10; 1 John. 2:4–6). A man can keep the commandments whether or not he is circumcised. SDA Bible Commentary
——>It’s Scripture - it ‘explains’ itself to a person with understanding and discernment.
“Estimations show there are more than 200 Christian denominations in the U.S. and a staggering 45,000 globally, according to the Center for the Study of Global Christianity.”
Sounds like someone doesn’t know how to discern.
——>In light of YOUR postings you think MINE are Voluminous ?
No, just the ones where you post voluminous amounts of SCRIPTURE, on points of discussion, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER EXPLANATION. (Hahahaha.....ha)
Sh’ma Yisra’eil Adonai Eloheinu Adonai echad.
——>You have idea whether I can ‘explain’ or not. - - I do this purposely so you can reply to so many of my posts: I don’t understand.”
I think you do it so you won’t have to defend your position. It’s as if you are saying: “Hey, look here at all of this SCRIPTURE...that’s the answer. If you don’t get it, you can’t discern the truth. You have a problem, not me. My EXPLANATION isn’t needed. Later. Elsie out.”
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