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Open Letter to Francis: Why Are You Destroying the Religion of the Saints?
The Remnant Newspaper ^ | November 1, 2023 | Robert Morrison

Posted on 11/02/2023 1:31:26 PM PDT by ebb tide

Open Letter to Francis: Why Are You Destroying the Religion of the Saints?

Dear Francis,

We write to you as fellow sinners, in great need of God’s mercy. In various ways — especially through your Synod on Synodality and persistent opposition to proselytism — you have asked Catholics to have respect for all baptized Christians and their particular religious beliefs. This openness to the religious beliefs of others encourages us to explain our religion to you.

We are Catholics who believe the same truths, and retain the same religious devotions, that all Catholics enjoyed prior to Vatican II. We often call ourselves Traditional Catholics, while others refer to us as rigid and backward.

 

As you know, prior to Vatican II many popes warned against Liberalism and Modernism because they sincerely believed that those ideas would harm Catholics. In general, they told us that “if you accept these errors, certain evil results will occur.” At Vatican II, John XXIII opened the door to ideas that had been condemned by his predecessors. Men like Yves Congar, Augustin Bea, and Henri de Lubac stepped in and persuaded the Council Fathers to accept the previously condemned ideas, many of which were disguised with ambiguity. What happened when Catholics accepted the errors the popes had warned about?

How can you be so very sure that God wills every religion in the world other than the Catholicism of your youth?

For over sixty years, we have seen a proliferation of all the evils in the Church about which the pre-Vatican II popes warned. Some people argue that these developments flow not from changes introduced at Vatican II but from broad societal change. This might be persuasive if it were not for the fact that those Catholics who retain the pre-Vatican II beliefs and practices have not experienced the same evils, at least not to the same extent. It is obvious that the pre-Vatican II popes were correct.

Certainly there are many nominal Catholics who want the Church to adopt the ideas that the popes had always condemned because they do not like what the Church has always said about non-Catholic religions and certain moral issues. But nobody is forced to be a Catholic. Those who do not want to accept what the Church has always taught could freely join one of the countless Protestant churches, or even form their own.

Going back to your opposition to proselytism, we can all understand your basic point, even though it conflicts with Our Lord’s call for us to teach the nations (Matthew 28:19-20). If you really believe that it is evil to try to change a single person’s religious beliefs through talking to them about Catholicism, how can you find it permissible to underhandedly change an entire religion from the inside, while telling believers that nothing has changed? Even a pagan or atheist would find such a devious project to be cruel and unjust, and yet is precisely what the innovators have done to Catholics. You also do this.

If we all need to stop eating meat to save the environment (because cow flatulence is so bad), what do they think nuclear bombs will do to the environment? These are the geniuses you would follow instead of the Church’s saints?

And here is another interesting thing about the Vatican II revolution. The ecumenical spirit obviously encourages all Christians to practice their chosen religion without being persecuted by Rome. You, as the man who represents himself to the world as the pope, would never think of condemning Baptists or Methodists, let alone shutting down their churches or persecuting them. Why, then, do you allow those in your hierarchy to do this to those Christians who happen to call themselves Traditional Catholic? Why, indeed, do you do these things to us?

You praised Blaise Pascal earlier this year and so surely you are familiar with his famous wager, in which he demonstrates how foolish it would be to act as though God did not exist. We can apply his same reasoning to the post-Vatican II ecumenism.

Suppose we all have to make a choice: you must either follow what the Church has always taught and be a Catholic, or else you can adopt any Christian set of beliefs (including Catholicism). If it is true that one must follow what the Church has alway taught to be saved, then those who do so will be saved, and those who follow non-Catholic religions will be lost. On the other hand, if all baptized souls can be saved by following any form of Christianity, then all baptized souls are saved regardless of which option they choose. Therefore, the only way you can be lost is by following a non-Catholic religion if, as the Church has always taught, there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church (absent the standard exceptions). Thus, the only logical choice is to follow what the Church has always taught.

We can apply this to you in two ways, both as a fellow sinner trying to make it to heaven, and in your capacity as the bishop dressed in white. As a fellow sinner, why would you bet your eternal salvation on the post-Vatican II ideas that have been so obviously disastrous? While you were in the seminary, you probably heard the grand forecasts that ecumenism would lead to unity and overflowing Catholic churches. Just the opposite happened — Catholics abandoned the Faith of their fathers in droves, filled with bitterness and sadness. All the prophets of change were wrong, and many were apparently malicious. Would you trust these fools with your eternal salvation?

May God grant you the grace you need to save your soul, honor God, and lead many souls to heaven. When He does give you the grace, accept it. Otherwise, we hope to never see the place that Satan has prepared for you.

But your situation is unique because you have taken such great responsibility upon your shoulders. It is bad enough that you will not choose to follow what the Church has always taught, but it is infinitely worse that you have occupied the papacy to prevent others from following the religion of all the saints. Indeed, you want to wipe that “rigid” and “backward” religion off the face of the earth, even though you would protect every other Christian religion. How can you be so very sure that God wills every religion in the world other than the Catholicism of your youth? All the saints would tell you that you have it exactly backwards.

Your occupation of the papacy exposes you to greater peril if you harm God’s Church and deprive Him of the love He wants to receive from souls. But it also allows you to do something heroic at this moment. You can choose between one of the lowest places in hell or a high place in heaven. Your role at this moment in salvation history therefore acts like a magnifier of the eternal consequences we all face. You can honor God and become a great saint if you reject the anti-Catholic spirit that has poisoned so many souls since Vatican II. With so many people praying for you, it seems that God will grant you the grace to do so.

But perhaps you would hesitate because so many “great people” support your efforts. Is it odd to you that many of your great friends who tell us to “trust the science” on the environment also tell us we are bigots if we say that men cannot become pregnant? And why are these great friends of yours pushing for World War III? If we all need to stop eating meat to save the environment (because cow flatulence is so bad), what do they think nuclear bombs will do to the environment? These are the geniuses you would follow instead of the Church’s saints?

You can be a great saint but you have to first be a great man, and you are running out of time. Many of us would offer our lives to help you convert, because we want to see you in heaven. May God grant you the grace you need to save your soul, honor God, and lead many souls to heaven. When He does give you the grace, accept it. Otherwise, we hope to never see the place that Satan has prepared for you. We pray that the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Undoer of Knots, intercedes on your behalf to obtain everything you need to choose heaven over hell. 

In Christo Rege,
Robert Morrison
Michael J. Matt | Editor, The Remnant



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To: ebb tide

The two destroyers...


      

41 posted on 11/02/2023 9:48:28 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Campion; 21twelve
Saints in heaven are alive, too.

So are people in hell.

Everyone is alive somewhere so that kind of justification or rationalization is ludicrous.

Anyone without an agenda of justifying their unscriptural religious practices recognizes the ordinary fact that when people talk about not contacting the dead, it means that people physically alive here on earth are prohibited from contacting those people who have physically died and are physically no longer alive here on earth.

Also the argument that people praying to *saints* in heaven is not asking them for anything but rather asking them to intercede to God for them is demonstrably false.

There are a plethora of Catholic prayers to dead people Catholics call saints that can be found online with a simple google search that prove that to be untrue.

Catholics ask those dead people to do things for them all the time.

It's like they think they can get something out of them easier than they can get something out of God.

Like the *saints* would go outside the will of God for a person.

It's a shame Catholics don't trust God enough to answer their prayers Himself, like He promised He would do for us, that they are afraid to go to Him with their needs and requests.

42 posted on 11/02/2023 9:49:23 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: daniel1212

My dad (Protestant) used to “talk” to his parents. He didn’t go into detail, just mentioned it. I didn’t take it as praying, but I guess it might be considered that. Now that he and my mom are gone I think it is a little odd to be “talking” with them, the thought never crossed my mind. Although there are times when “I wonder what my old man would do in this situation?”

Just awhile ago our pastor said something like “And I know that it is a nice image to have that our loved ones are looking down on us and seeing how we are doing. Pretty sure though, if they are in Heaven, their attention is fixed on God and praising Him.”

I’ve also wondered, if Heaven is Holy and perfect and joyful, how could a parent look down on their child going through hard times, willfully ignoring or going against God, etc.? I suppose as they know that God wins in the end, but still. I imagine that those in Heaven, except for the angels and God, can’t see what is happening on earth.


43 posted on 11/02/2023 9:58:56 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
I have consistently referred to him as Satan’s Pope beginning shortly after the white smoke rose above the Vatican that signaled his election. He is obviously doing as ordered by Beelzebub to complete the destruction of the Church that was begun by the Satan Council (Vatican, 1962-1965).

The destruction of Catholicism goes back way further than Vatican 2

Vatican 2 didn't write itself nor establish itself as Catholic policy. Someone wrote it and someone had to vote to approve it.

Vatican 2 is as much a symptom of the destruction of Catholicism is as Francis is. Neither is the cause of the problems. The problems already endemic within Catholicism are what permitted both of them to be established in the first place.

Catholics tend to get the cart before the horse in many judgments about moral or theological issues. These aren't the only ones.

44 posted on 11/02/2023 10:01:28 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: roving

When the apostles asked Jesus to teach them to pray, He gave them the Lord’s prayer and taught them to pray to the FATHER.

NOTHING about *praying* to anyone else.


45 posted on 11/02/2023 10:02:51 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: daniel1212

Hail Mary
Full of grace
The Lord is with Thee
Blessed art Thou among women
And blessed is the fruit of Thy womb, Jesus

Holy Mary, Mother of God
Pray for us sinners
Now and in the hour of our death.

Amen

Go away, Daniel. In the name of God.


46 posted on 11/03/2023 4:20:18 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Maris Crane

Don't wait 'til he's DEAD - cut off his fingers NOW!


47 posted on 11/03/2023 4:22:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Nah; they just get a different horse to pull the worn out wagon.


48 posted on 11/03/2023 4:23:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Details...


49 posted on 11/03/2023 4:24:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annalex
Go away, Daniel. In the name of God.


I doubt that DANIEL is going to go any where.
 
 

Daniel 12:2
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
 

50 posted on 11/03/2023 4:27:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide

Holy Cow. Is that all you’ve got to defend praying to the dead?


51 posted on 11/03/2023 4:51:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: metmom

Neither is the cause of the problems. The problems already endemic within Catholicism are what permitted both of them to be established in the first place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Well metmom, since you obviously consider yourself to be very knowledgeable concerning those “endemic” problems, don’t be coy, please share your soul-saving knowledge with me and the hundreds of millions of other deluded Catholic and Orthodox folks who are now on the road to hell!


52 posted on 11/03/2023 5:12:25 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Current POPE and POTUS: corrupt, ignorant, paranoid, angry, deeply hateful, and deeply despised.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

Why change the subject?

If you disagree with the cause and effect scenario, why?

And if the problems weren’t endemic in Catholicism, how did V2 and the current pope become established?

After all, it was Catholic hierarchy that was responsible for both of them. If the hierarchy was as straight on as y’all claim, then where did V2 and Francis come from and how were they established in Catholicism?

They WERE voted in, right?


53 posted on 11/03/2023 5:25:07 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: annalex; daniel1212

Hmmmm, that sounds like you think you are performing an exorcism.

Is that what you are doing?


54 posted on 11/03/2023 5:28:42 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom
And when we pray to God, the Holy Spirit intercedes for us ("with groans which cannot be uttered" -- Romans 8:26).

I am curious what the Holy Spirit's role might be when people pray to anyone but God.

It would seem that praying to Mary to intercede on our behalf ignores or replaces the Holy Spirit.

55 posted on 11/03/2023 6:06:38 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: ebb tide

Talking to a wall and an imposter sitting in the Chair of Peter.


56 posted on 11/03/2023 6:22:35 AM PDT by NKP_Vet (Catholic-lite Equals Catholic ZERO)
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To: RoosterRedux

Interesting question.


57 posted on 11/03/2023 7:04:51 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Who was duly elected according to Catholic protocol by your college of cardinals. What does that say about THEM?

You all have far more issues in your hierarchy than just Francis. How far down the ranks it goes is anyone’s guess, but based on precedent........


58 posted on 11/03/2023 7:07:12 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom
So are people in hell.

In Mt 25, Jesus says, "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. . . . And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." He here draws a clear distinction between those who are alive in God in heaven, and those who are suffering "eternal punishment" in hell.

Only those who are engaged in justifying their unscriptural departures from the authentic Christian faith would miss something so obvious.

Anyone without an agenda of justifying their unscriptural religious practices recognizes the ordinary fact that when people talk about not contacting the dead, it means that people physically alive here on earth are prohibited from contacting those people who have physically died and are physically no longer alive here on earth.

So Jesus, when he spoke to at the Transfiguration, was either sinning or just setting a really, really bad example for us?

And when Hebrews 12:1 says the saints surround us as "a cloud of witnesses," we're prohibited from asking for their intercession?

It's like they think they can get something out of them easier than they can get something out of God.

As usual, your argument descends into objections that are equally "valid" as attacks on intercessory prayer in general. But since intercessory prayer is clearly taught in the NT and clearly practiced and encouraged by the apostles, you are stuck arguing something that is clearly contrary to Scripture.

Didn't Paul know that he could go directly to God? Why does he ask people to pray for him? (Ephesians 6:19 and elsewhere)

The root issue here is that the church, as a supernatural reality, is not in your "Just Jesus and me" solipsistic theology. But that's not in the Bible. The Bible says that the Church is the Bride of Christ, the Body of Christ, the pillar and ground of the truth, and was created directly by Christ and gifted with his promise that the gates of hell should not overcome it. That means, among other things, that the church is just as alive in heaven as she is on earth, and the bonds of charity which connect her members are not divided by death. "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?"

59 posted on 11/03/2023 7:50:14 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: metmom
Sorry, sloppy editing. Should be:

So Jesus, when he spoke to Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration, was either sinning or just setting a really, really bad example for us?

60 posted on 11/03/2023 7:51:59 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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