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Open Letter to Francis: Why Are You Destroying the Religion of the Saints?
The Remnant Newspaper ^ | November 1, 2023 | Robert Morrison

Posted on 11/02/2023 1:31:26 PM PDT by ebb tide

Open Letter to Francis: Why Are You Destroying the Religion of the Saints?

Dear Francis,

We write to you as fellow sinners, in great need of God’s mercy. In various ways — especially through your Synod on Synodality and persistent opposition to proselytism — you have asked Catholics to have respect for all baptized Christians and their particular religious beliefs. This openness to the religious beliefs of others encourages us to explain our religion to you.

We are Catholics who believe the same truths, and retain the same religious devotions, that all Catholics enjoyed prior to Vatican II. We often call ourselves Traditional Catholics, while others refer to us as rigid and backward.

 

As you know, prior to Vatican II many popes warned against Liberalism and Modernism because they sincerely believed that those ideas would harm Catholics. In general, they told us that “if you accept these errors, certain evil results will occur.” At Vatican II, John XXIII opened the door to ideas that had been condemned by his predecessors. Men like Yves Congar, Augustin Bea, and Henri de Lubac stepped in and persuaded the Council Fathers to accept the previously condemned ideas, many of which were disguised with ambiguity. What happened when Catholics accepted the errors the popes had warned about?

How can you be so very sure that God wills every religion in the world other than the Catholicism of your youth?

For over sixty years, we have seen a proliferation of all the evils in the Church about which the pre-Vatican II popes warned. Some people argue that these developments flow not from changes introduced at Vatican II but from broad societal change. This might be persuasive if it were not for the fact that those Catholics who retain the pre-Vatican II beliefs and practices have not experienced the same evils, at least not to the same extent. It is obvious that the pre-Vatican II popes were correct.

Certainly there are many nominal Catholics who want the Church to adopt the ideas that the popes had always condemned because they do not like what the Church has always said about non-Catholic religions and certain moral issues. But nobody is forced to be a Catholic. Those who do not want to accept what the Church has always taught could freely join one of the countless Protestant churches, or even form their own.

Going back to your opposition to proselytism, we can all understand your basic point, even though it conflicts with Our Lord’s call for us to teach the nations (Matthew 28:19-20). If you really believe that it is evil to try to change a single person’s religious beliefs through talking to them about Catholicism, how can you find it permissible to underhandedly change an entire religion from the inside, while telling believers that nothing has changed? Even a pagan or atheist would find such a devious project to be cruel and unjust, and yet is precisely what the innovators have done to Catholics. You also do this.

If we all need to stop eating meat to save the environment (because cow flatulence is so bad), what do they think nuclear bombs will do to the environment? These are the geniuses you would follow instead of the Church’s saints?

And here is another interesting thing about the Vatican II revolution. The ecumenical spirit obviously encourages all Christians to practice their chosen religion without being persecuted by Rome. You, as the man who represents himself to the world as the pope, would never think of condemning Baptists or Methodists, let alone shutting down their churches or persecuting them. Why, then, do you allow those in your hierarchy to do this to those Christians who happen to call themselves Traditional Catholic? Why, indeed, do you do these things to us?

You praised Blaise Pascal earlier this year and so surely you are familiar with his famous wager, in which he demonstrates how foolish it would be to act as though God did not exist. We can apply his same reasoning to the post-Vatican II ecumenism.

Suppose we all have to make a choice: you must either follow what the Church has always taught and be a Catholic, or else you can adopt any Christian set of beliefs (including Catholicism). If it is true that one must follow what the Church has alway taught to be saved, then those who do so will be saved, and those who follow non-Catholic religions will be lost. On the other hand, if all baptized souls can be saved by following any form of Christianity, then all baptized souls are saved regardless of which option they choose. Therefore, the only way you can be lost is by following a non-Catholic religion if, as the Church has always taught, there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church (absent the standard exceptions). Thus, the only logical choice is to follow what the Church has always taught.

We can apply this to you in two ways, both as a fellow sinner trying to make it to heaven, and in your capacity as the bishop dressed in white. As a fellow sinner, why would you bet your eternal salvation on the post-Vatican II ideas that have been so obviously disastrous? While you were in the seminary, you probably heard the grand forecasts that ecumenism would lead to unity and overflowing Catholic churches. Just the opposite happened — Catholics abandoned the Faith of their fathers in droves, filled with bitterness and sadness. All the prophets of change were wrong, and many were apparently malicious. Would you trust these fools with your eternal salvation?

May God grant you the grace you need to save your soul, honor God, and lead many souls to heaven. When He does give you the grace, accept it. Otherwise, we hope to never see the place that Satan has prepared for you.

But your situation is unique because you have taken such great responsibility upon your shoulders. It is bad enough that you will not choose to follow what the Church has always taught, but it is infinitely worse that you have occupied the papacy to prevent others from following the religion of all the saints. Indeed, you want to wipe that “rigid” and “backward” religion off the face of the earth, even though you would protect every other Christian religion. How can you be so very sure that God wills every religion in the world other than the Catholicism of your youth? All the saints would tell you that you have it exactly backwards.

Your occupation of the papacy exposes you to greater peril if you harm God’s Church and deprive Him of the love He wants to receive from souls. But it also allows you to do something heroic at this moment. You can choose between one of the lowest places in hell or a high place in heaven. Your role at this moment in salvation history therefore acts like a magnifier of the eternal consequences we all face. You can honor God and become a great saint if you reject the anti-Catholic spirit that has poisoned so many souls since Vatican II. With so many people praying for you, it seems that God will grant you the grace to do so.

But perhaps you would hesitate because so many “great people” support your efforts. Is it odd to you that many of your great friends who tell us to “trust the science” on the environment also tell us we are bigots if we say that men cannot become pregnant? And why are these great friends of yours pushing for World War III? If we all need to stop eating meat to save the environment (because cow flatulence is so bad), what do they think nuclear bombs will do to the environment? These are the geniuses you would follow instead of the Church’s saints?

You can be a great saint but you have to first be a great man, and you are running out of time. Many of us would offer our lives to help you convert, because we want to see you in heaven. May God grant you the grace you need to save your soul, honor God, and lead many souls to heaven. When He does give you the grace, accept it. Otherwise, we hope to never see the place that Satan has prepared for you. We pray that the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Undoer of Knots, intercedes on your behalf to obtain everything you need to choose heaven over hell. 

In Christo Rege,
Robert Morrison
Michael J. Matt | Editor, The Remnant



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
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To: Elsie
Like... Call no man father?

"And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham for our father. For I tell you that God is able of these stones to raise up children to Abraham. [Matthew 3:9]

141 posted on 11/05/2023 5:13:35 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

You keep saying “One true Church”...you must be referring to Eastern Orthodox (Greek Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox, Serbian Orthodox, etc.), not the Pope-lead, Pope as ultimate authority, Pope chosen by the Holy Spirit thru the College of Cardinals splinter church in Rome. The Roman Pope has “plenitudo potestatis”...if you “disrespect”/criticize your Pope you are blaspheming your church.

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=4319


142 posted on 11/05/2023 5:33:49 PM PST by Drago
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To: Drago

No; that’s not what I’m referring to.

The churches you mentioned are all schismatic.


143 posted on 11/05/2023 5:36:13 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

If you criticize the Roman Pope you are in schism with your RC church....he has Papal Supremacy/”plenitudo potestatis”.

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/atd-herkimer-westerncivilization/chapter/the-development-of-papal-supremacy/

https://medium.com/catholicism-for-the-modern-world/papal-supremacy-pope-gregory-the-great-vs-patriarch-john-the-faster-f9ff836a51ce

https://www.goarch.org/-/papal-primacy

http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/papal_supremacy.aspx


144 posted on 11/05/2023 5:52:07 PM PST by Drago
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To: Elsie

Just following Rome’s leading.

She ‘allows’ you RCC folks to do and believe all kinds of stuff that still keeps her in the top spot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
How a self-proclaimed biblical scholar such as yourself apparently can be so misinformed concerning 2,000 years of the history of Christianity is truly sad. But presumably there have been better educated men than you who have concluded that centuries of religious and secular historians and scholars have somehow been duped by the devious prelates of the Universal Church. No doubt such naivete will always be a source of amusement to those of us who are not so gullible.


145 posted on 11/05/2023 6:00:48 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Current POPE and POTUS: corrupt, ignorant, paranoid, angry, deeply hateful, and deeply despised.)
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To: Drago
If you criticize the Roman Pope you are in schism with your RC church....he has Papal Supremacy/”plenitudo potestatis”.

I'm sorry. But you could be no more wrong.

You mentioned a "Roman Pope"; who's your "pope"? Putin?

146 posted on 11/05/2023 6:01:23 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Nope, no “Pope” of any sort for me. (One side of my family was E. Orthodox in the distant past tho.) If you deny RC papal supremacy (by critizing the RC Pope) then perhaps Eastern Orthodox is your best choice in a religion. See my previous links.


147 posted on 11/05/2023 6:11:23 PM PST by Drago
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To: Drago

You are so surely mistaken.

It is Jorge Bergoglio, himself, who has relegated the title “Vicar of Christ” to the history books.

But I’m sure Bergoglio will agree with you that other “religions” are sufficient for salvation, whether they be christian or non-christian religions.


148 posted on 11/05/2023 6:21:07 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Drago

Rules....some Roman Catholics don’t need no stinking rules!


149 posted on 11/05/2023 6:26:16 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“Selective Compliance”


150 posted on 11/05/2023 6:42:34 PM PST by Drago
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To: ebb tide

No biggie for me, I just find it strange that you risk excommunication with your dozens of posts critical of your RC Pope! It is heresy to criticize the supreme leader/theologian of your RC religion (Papal infallibility/”plenitudo potestatis”. You must spend a lot of time in the RC “penalty box”/confessional!!

Schismatic behavior/sin:
“...the person who refuses submission to the Roman Pontiff, whom Vatican I defined as having a universal PRIMACY OF AUTHORITY over the whole Church...”

https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/answers/heresy-shism-and-apostasy-24761

But by all means be the “Happy Heretic” if you wish! ;-) I was just a bit stumped by your continuing rejection of basic RC teaching on Papal Supremacy/infallibility.


151 posted on 11/05/2023 6:58:35 PM PST by Drago
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To: Drago
You have tossed out words like "blasphemy", "heresy", "schimatic", etc with absolutely no concept of what they mean.


152 posted on 11/05/2023 7:14:10 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I used the RC definition of the words:

For example:
“Schism:
Refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff, or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”

http://www.thesacredheart.com/dictnary.htm#S

or

https://www.catholic.org/encyclopedia/view.php?id=10569

“...Anyone becomes a schismatic who, though desiring to remain a Christian, rebels against legitimate authority, without going as far as the rejection of Christianity as a whole, which constitutes the crime of apostasy.”


153 posted on 11/05/2023 7:37:19 PM PST by Drago
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To: Drago

Oh, I know what the words mean.

It’s you, who doesn’t know how to use them properly.

You’ve thrown them all out to see what sticks against the wall. And you have failed.

By the way, how have I committed “blasphemy”? How am I “schismatic”? How am I a “heretic”?


154 posted on 11/05/2023 8:32:35 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Schismatic/heretic: “Refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff”/”Rebels against legitimate authority” (In previous links of RC dictionaries).


155 posted on 11/05/2023 9:08:30 PM PST by Drago
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To: Drago
What about it?

When have I refused submission to a Pope?

When have I rebelled against legitimate authority?

Please give specific examples.

156 posted on 11/05/2023 9:35:59 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

The Pope’s authority on LGBT+++ and climate change issues is absolute (as are all his theology/teachings)...he was selected by the Holy Spirit thru the prayerful consideration of the College of Cardinals according to RC tradition.

Examples of your rebellion against the Pope’s teachings are very numerous.

Some examples out of dozens & dozens (besides this thread of course):

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4191960/posts
“Q: Is it possible for a heretic to be Pope?”
ebb tide: “Yes”.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4194061/posts

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4193847/posts

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4193231/posts

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4190546/posts

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4190816/posts

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4190802/posts

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4190556/posts

Pretty much just see this for the complete list: https://freerepublic.com/tag/by:ebbtide/index


157 posted on 11/05/2023 10:28:12 PM PST by Drago
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To: ebb tide

Do you pray the rosary?

Why not?


158 posted on 11/06/2023 5:12:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide

Douay-Rheims Bible

And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham for our father.

Yet you guys do it all the time.

English Standard Version
And do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham.

Quite presumptuous of you.


159 posted on 11/06/2023 5:16:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
...those of us who are not so gullible.

Well; you guys DO have a Novena that has NEVER failed; so you got that going for you.

160 posted on 11/06/2023 5:17:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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