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The Greatest Teaching on the Two Witnesses of Revelation and Who They Are! 45 minute audio
IFB ^ | Dr. John Whitcomb

Posted on 10/18/2023 9:31:26 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

Dear friends; Get out your Bibles and dive deep into this amazing Audio message on the Two Witnesses of Revelation by Dr. John Whitcomb! See who they are and what they will do!

Maranatha!


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KEYWORDS: 2witnesses; bible; revelation
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I think the two witnesses would be people of the present time and the connection to OT figures like Enoch and Elijah is probably symbolic not literal. Are the two witnesses yet active, in other words, are we into their 1260 days of witness despite tribulations? Only if two people now alive know that they are witnessing. I would not say this is definite or obvious but we do seem to be well advanced into end times so it cannot be ruled out, perhaps it is something to be revealed later.

A clue would be what the two witnesses are actually witnessing to, which would appear in context to be the imminent nature of the second coming and the Kingdom. Revelation account of the activity of the two witnesses ends with passages that are parallel to similar scenes that lead to the second coming, and also witnesses are said to be “my two witnesses” by Jesus in giving John of Patmos the vision.

Their death in the street of the “great city” is often interpreted to be Jerusalem, yet nowadays, Jerusalem in no sense really has authority over kings of the earth, the only city that has any such position today is New York City and that only in the rather limited sense that it hosts the United Nations with its rather weak power over nations (one could say almost non-existent power). Also New York City is a fairly good proxy for the central power of globalism, and that is an ideology with considerable power over kings of the nations.

So I would say the most likely identity of two witnesses would be two individuals who have spoken in public about the superior nature of the Kingdom to the world system of globalism. That is not an obvious identifier but could include almost anybody reading this. Got plans to visit New York City?

Personally, I think we are well into the 1260 days (Daniel states in parallel to Revelation that 1260 days precedes the destruction) and that the 1260 days are a subset of the 1290 (abomination that makes desolate, an event and period confirmed by Jesus to disciples).

I don’t foresee a timetable of 1260, followed by 1290 more days. Some do, and place the Rapture at end of 1260 days, before the period of abomination(s). I also believe the blessing of 1335 days is meshed into the 1260 and 1290 day countdown, so it comes 45 days after abomination(s) and 75 days after destruction/death of witnesses.

We could be a long way into this countdown. Biden’s presidency could represent the concurrent evil of 1260 days against which the witnesses are prophesying. It all depends on how literal or symbolic the prophecy is. Biden has been president for three years now. One could time his days as starting from nomination since the election was clearly stolen and therefore of no actual value in timing his rule; in fact he more or less announced in advance that the election would be stolen and he would win by fraud. Only the current “establishment” failed to notice, all of us did.

I would go so far as to say it will happen soon, the fulfilment of prophecy, and it will become obvious then. I don’t think we are past 1260 days but it could be one of those things where hindsight shows that we were; the 1290 days would be less easy to hide in coded language to be revealed later, and the 1335 days will definitely be an open event obvious to everybody.

So perhaps past 1260 days, probably not past 1290 days, definitely not past 1335, is how I would look at this evolving situation. All other aspects of prophecy seem to be in place (beast, dragon, false prophet, harlot, possible approach to Armageddon, etc).


21 posted on 10/18/2023 1:14:40 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It is possible to be against both Putin and globalism, in fact, I've done it. Give it a try. )
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Bump


22 posted on 10/18/2023 2:15:45 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Enoch and Elijah.


23 posted on 10/18/2023 2:39:53 PM PDT by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Moses and Elijah appeared at the transfiguration. The miracles described in Revelation align with those performed through Moses and Elijah.


24 posted on 10/18/2023 2:48:19 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
The miracles described in Revelation align with those performed through Moses and Elijah.

Moses already died. The Apocalypse says the Witnesses are to be killed.
25 posted on 10/18/2023 3:25:17 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: thepoodlebites

I think of the Old Testament which speaks of God creating the world, sin in Adam and the prophecy of the coming Messiah. The second being the New testament which tells of the Arrival of the Messiah, His triumph over sin and He is the Way, the Truth and the (everlasting)Life if you believe upon Him. Those are the witnesses God has already sent us.


26 posted on 10/18/2023 3:26:29 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Attention terrorists! has Joe Biden forgot to fund your cell? get in on the $$$ giveaway.)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Bkmk


27 posted on 10/18/2023 4:42:56 PM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Moses already died. The Apocalypse says the Witnesses are to be killed.

Lazarus died too.

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
28 posted on 10/18/2023 4:59:22 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
Lazarus died too.

I always wondered if he had any memory of his particular judgment. I don't pretend to know with certainty who the two witnesses are. It looks like Elias is agreed upon by almost everybody. So the only question is Moses or Enoch. Moses died, but St. Michael took the body from the devil (Book of Jude).

Who knows for sure? We may find out within our lifetime.
29 posted on 10/18/2023 5:07:07 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: BipolarBob

My money is on Elijah, representing the Prophets, and Moses, representing the Law. I base that on their appearance at the Transfiguration, and who better to be there in the Time of Jacob’s Trouble? But it’s just a guess.


30 posted on 10/18/2023 5:17:42 PM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: Trump_Triumphant

Thanks for sharing; Why Enoch?


31 posted on 10/18/2023 5:50:56 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: RaceBannon

Jimmy; Dr. Whitcomb was the man; right Brother?!


32 posted on 10/18/2023 5:51:47 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: BipolarBob

😂. ☝️


33 posted on 10/18/2023 5:52:49 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: aimhigh

Facts! Hear ye my beloved Son;

A question… What does it mean to love as God; Who is Love; loves?


34 posted on 10/18/2023 5:54:46 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: EliRoom8

Yeah; we just went to the Ark Encounter in Kentucky and Ken Ham gave Dr. Whitcomb his own lecture room; name after him in remembrance of his love for the Lord; Dr. W always for the rapture; he ended every message or began every message that way;
Maranatha!
☝️


35 posted on 10/18/2023 5:57:53 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

yes he waqs, great guy.
funny story, he announced a new creationist book by Marvin Leubenow at a conference, I forgot the author/title, so I asked george if I could contact him.
George gave me his number, I called, left a message.
He called back.
Collect.
Not a joke.


36 posted on 10/18/2023 6:17:32 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
A question… What does it mean to love as God; Who is Love; loves?

"By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome." 1 John 5:2-3

37 posted on 10/18/2023 7:00:47 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . . ")
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Most Christian scholars have always said one of the witnesses would be Enoch. Hal Lindsey believed that it was Moses and Elijah. I guess we don’t know for certain. I’m open to all possibilities.


38 posted on 10/19/2023 1:00:45 AM PDT by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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To: Trump_Triumphant

-—>Most Christian scholars have always said...

The same ones that say that God’s 10 commandment law was nailed to the cross and no longer binding on Christians? Those scholars? Just checking.


39 posted on 10/19/2023 1:48:30 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

Few scholars described the atonement that way until fairly recent.


40 posted on 10/19/2023 2:16:45 AM PDT by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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