Posted on 09/20/2023 1:23:36 AM PDT by spirited irish
It is obvious now, looking back at the post-9/11 and pre-Obergefell era, that the leftward drift of this movement was inevitable. The end of Renn’s “neutral world” and the beginning of a negative world hostile to Christianity began soon after the Supreme Court’s Obergefelldecision in 2015 and accelerated rapidly with Trump’s 2016 victory. Changed circumstances undermined the attractive witness model as previously practiced. The neutral-world ethos could not hold in the negative world; the era of open debate was gone.
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The Evangelical movement was always attached to that non-biblical “rapture” nonsense, and basically as decades and decades pass the firm believers, who are paranoid about dying a natural death, realize it was all bull-honkey and now realize they gotta die like everyone else, and this basically fried their brain and like all people who’s beliefs get totally shattered, they immediately move onto some other radical movement as cope, even one which contradicts their previous system of beliefs
WTH did Trump’s election have to do with the decline of evangalism? Seems a bit labored and tenuous.
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The point being made by the author is that Evangelical Elite bend the knee to Progressive Leftism, and as a result have distanced themselves from faithful conservative Christians. Therefore,Trump ---whose supporters are faithful conservative Christians---triggered attacks against Trump and his supporters by the 'elite.'
In his conclusion, the author believes the time of 'elite Evangelicals' is over due to what he believes is going to occur, a revival of faithful Christianity led by the very Christians rejected by the 'elite.'
I think the idea was that Obergefell and then the Trump election moved Evangelicals from being viewed as neutral to openly disfavored position by the secular culture.
Among the Evangelical Elite are those committed to the evolutionization of the Church of Christ. Tim Keller was one of them.
Rather than worry about one’s own spiritual state, easier to blame it on Trump.
What silly projection and drivel.
Agree with your summary. I believe that’s exactly what’s going to happen and this Elite mountain of arrogance is crumbling everywhere. We must, as a people, read God’s word. There is no other way to know him but that’s the most magnificent thing in the world. Knowing him
The neo-Calvinist movement that the author discusses was mostly anti-Rapture and arose in part as a reaction to the failures of dispensational predictions of the end of the world in the late 20th Century. However, this movement was a mask for stealth liberals to subvert the evangelical church.
RE: The Evangelical movement was always attached to that non-biblical “rapture” nonsense
I find it bizarre ( unless you are a non-believer ) that you would call belief in the rapture non-biblical when the BIBLE itself clearly teaches it.
See : 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
It is CLEARLY BIBLICAL.
As you made the assumption that the rapture is non biblical, please to prove that, the burden of proof lies upon you now.
As just posted and from my reading about the rapture it is absolutely biblical, now one can debate the nature of it and timing, but one can hardly state the bible has no support for it.
Guess we should ignore these verses?
1 Thessalonians 4
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Filthy homosexuals hate evangelicals and anything that is moral. These filthy depraved sinful souls are lower than a rattlesnake. And then they join FR to troll the Christian forums. /spit
Spend time in central America about half the year. Got into the habit of listening to old Billy Graham Revival events on YouTube, great way to start Sunday morning, gimme that old time religion.
“””the Trump election moved Evangelicals from being viewed as neutral to openly disfavored position by the secular culture.”””
Not even close, the media and democrats and left hated the most conservative voting block in America long, long, before Trump ran. Evangelicals were always seen as the right wing, always giving 85 and 95% of their vote against Democrats.
So not only are you rabidly pro-abortion, you despise
Christians as well.
You are some retread.
I would differ with your characterization. Although there were/are evangelical Christians who obsess on the rapture, that is not what defines an evangelical. I believe the wiki definition (hardly a pro-Christian source) offers a fair definition, namely:
"Evangelical Christianity aka Evangelical Protestantism, is a worldwide interdenominational movement within Protestant Christianity that affirms the centrality of being "born again", in which an individual experiences personal conversion; the authority of the Bible as God's revelation to humanity; and spreading the Christian message."
Thank-you. f conservative Christianity is to revitalize and make a difference throughout our depraved land then we must do just what you said.
I like his summary:
“In our age of secularist hostility, you must decide whether drag queen story hour is a blessing of liberty or a license to be destroyed; whether you want pagan nationalism or Christian nationalism; whether degeneracy or righteousness will prevail, and whether Satan or the Lord Jesus will rule over this land.”
Reminds me of the complete futility and irrevelance of the Republican debates.
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