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To: spirited irish

The Evangelical movement was always attached to that non-biblical “rapture” nonsense, and basically as decades and decades pass the firm believers, who are paranoid about dying a natural death, realize it was all bull-honkey and now realize they gotta die like everyone else, and this basically fried their brain and like all people who’s beliefs get totally shattered, they immediately move onto some other radical movement as cope, even one which contradicts their previous system of beliefs


3 posted on 09/20/2023 2:05:56 AM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Among the Evangelical Elite are those committed to the evolutionization of the Church of Christ. Tim Keller was one of them.


7 posted on 09/20/2023 2:50:40 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

What silly projection and drivel.


9 posted on 09/20/2023 3:37:18 AM PDT by Dartoid
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The neo-Calvinist movement that the author discusses was mostly anti-Rapture and arose in part as a reaction to the failures of dispensational predictions of the end of the world in the late 20th Century. However, this movement was a mask for stealth liberals to subvert the evangelical church.


11 posted on 09/20/2023 3:39:46 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook; spirited irish

RE: The Evangelical movement was always attached to that non-biblical “rapture” nonsense

I find it bizarre ( unless you are a non-believer ) that you would call belief in the rapture non-biblical when the BIBLE itself clearly teaches it.

See : 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

It is CLEARLY BIBLICAL.


12 posted on 09/20/2023 3:59:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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As you made the assumption that the rapture is non biblical, please to prove that, the burden of proof lies upon you now.

As just posted and from my reading about the rapture it is absolutely biblical, now one can debate the nature of it and timing, but one can hardly state the bible has no support for it.

Guess we should ignore these verses?

1 Thessalonians 4
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.


13 posted on 09/20/2023 4:15:15 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

So not only are you rabidly pro-abortion, you despise
Christians as well.

You are some retread.


17 posted on 09/20/2023 4:48:00 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
The Evangelical movement was always attached to that non-biblical “rapture” nonsense,

I would differ with your characterization. Although there were/are evangelical Christians who obsess on the rapture, that is not what defines an evangelical. I believe the wiki definition (hardly a pro-Christian source) offers a fair definition, namely:

"Evangelical Christianity aka Evangelical Protestantism, is a worldwide interdenominational movement within Protestant Christianity that affirms the centrality of being "born again", in which an individual experiences personal conversion; the authority of the Bible as God's revelation to humanity; and spreading the Christian message."

18 posted on 09/20/2023 4:59:11 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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Did you read the article? YRR is REFORMED meaning they don’t believe in the rapture. The Christian work done in the 19th and 20th centuries and the stand for orthodoxy was done mainly by pre-millennial Arminians.


22 posted on 09/20/2023 5:44:25 AM PDT by Othniel77
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
Rattlesnake_Snook
Since Jun 26, 2023

Welcome to FR.

The Evangelical movement was always attached to that non-biblical “rapture” nonsense, and basically as decades and decades pass the firm believers, who are paranoid about dying a natural death, realize it was all bull-honkey and now realize they gotta die like everyone else, and this basically fried their brain and like all people who’s beliefs get totally shattered, they immediately move onto some other radical movement as cope, even one which contradicts their previous system of beliefs

What's it to you whether someone believes that the rapture is going to happen?

How do you think it makes a lick of difference in how one lives their life before God?

25 posted on 09/20/2023 7:03:33 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
The Evangelical movement was always attached to that non-biblical “rapture” nonsense, and basically as decades and decades pass the firm believers, who are paranoid about dying a natural death, realize it was all bull-honkey and now realize they gotta die like everyone else, and this basically fried their brain and like all people who’s beliefs get totally shattered, they immediately move onto some other radical movement as cope, even one which contradicts their previous system of beliefs

You are doing some massive projecting there. Most of us realize that we will die before the rapture takes place. I don't know a single person who holds to the rapture who is afraid of dying. If you are ready for the rapture, you are ready for death. If you are ready for death, you are ready for the rapture.

Which ever way God chooses to take me, is fine with me, although I think it would be really awesome to be changed in the twinkling of an eye and caught up to heaven.

What a unique experience that would be.

But I also realize that I could die today and it's not *if* but when and how and I have precious little say in that matter.

26 posted on 09/20/2023 7:08:07 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

In Your Opinion.


44 posted on 09/20/2023 11:29:09 PM PDT by Syncro (#ListlessVessel God is Good Facts is Facts)
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