Posted on 06/15/2023 1:26:47 AM PDT by spirited irish
When modern pagan materialists speak frankly, they not only confess their fear and hatred of the Triune God but admit that their so-called ‘scientific theories’…the products of their darkened imaginations…are foolishness:
“…one belief that all true original Darwinians held in common, and that was their rejection of creationism, their rejection of special creation. This was the flag around which they assembled and under which they marched…. The conviction that the diversity of the natural world was the result of natural processes and not the work of God was the idea that brought all the so-called Darwinians together in spite of their disagreements on other of Darwin’s theories. (One Long Argument,1991, p. 99, Ernst Mayr, 1904–2005, Professor of Zoology at Harvard University)
(Excerpt) Read more at patriotandliberty.com ...
See how these questions are answered so quickly, without my having to try? Well, okay I actually searched, but it was for the details on another topic entirely. Happens all the time.
In this case, it was that 'country bunker' I said I needed to head to, where the loopholes are built right in . I take my own advice, and headed back on over right after I posted that:
פילבוקס (288)
I've known the particular term because some decades ago I lived in a place where they dot the landscape. Who knew where one might pop up. Places of literal sparks, in their day.
It's like that. 😃
In the present day, I walk around the internet, and thus today discovered their name in 'Hebrew.'
As long as I 'never know' when to quit, has anyone who is familiar with [and/or has written about] Yosef HaTzaddik ever noticed that 288 is one spark short of 172?
"Add the Kollel!" 🔥
"like evolutionary processes"...
Those familiar with the material on inner.org would know that formatting drops out, notably the superscripts, which makes for some interesting reading. For example:
The numerical value of ברא , “created,” is 203.
The numerical value of עשה , “made,” is 375.The sum of “created” and “made” is therefore 578, which gives us that the average value of each verb is 289. But, 289 is equal to 172, and as we know, in the Torah, a square number represents a perfect state of inter-inclusion. 289 is also the numerical value of the second and third words of the Torah: “God created” ברא א־להים . This means that if we look at the numerical difference between these two verbs, it is equal to 172, which is also 2 · 86, or two times God’s Name that implies nature, א־להים . What this mathematical relationship implies is that hidden underneath all natural processes that improve reality (like evolutionary processes) is the Name of God, א־להים , Elokim, as manifest in the continuous recreation of reality ex nihilo. This is truly an outstanding gematria to contemplate.
248 Elementary Particles and the Image of God (Lecture 1 and 2)
The numerical value of ברא , “created,” is 203.
"Biden Wants to Build an 8,000-Mile Ocean Train, and I Say Let's Do This!"
See what I mean? Insane! 😘
Not just Catholics but increasingly within the Protestant Evangelical church. Tim Keller, for instance, dismissed the Genesis account as poetry and taught evolution from the pulpit of Redeemer church. His videos were published on a prominent evolutionary theism website, BioLogos. They may still be there.
The Lord our God created all things by the power of His Word. To ascribe evolution to Him is to limit Him, to reduce Him from creator to craftsman.
Deists: The Clockmaker.
Wind the clock and let it run.
Exactly
I think a good study of Genesis would be in order.
I noticed none of you could disprove a single point in these videos, how interesting....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBssnELtE94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ_prUuzX50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EPmPA7mvVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bNfUrgb-1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y_15D23tRM
Moses was several centuries after Noah.
And if wolves were not dogs and vice versa, they could not produce viable offspring, but they can.
What about the fact that about a third of the New Testament consists of quotes from the Old Testament?
Augustine taught evolution:
“Specifically, we’re talking about Book V
Chapter 7 Paragraph 20, where he lays out
what his topic is: “the production of things in
the course of time following the creation of
the world.” And the first point he makes is
this: “The [Book of Genesis] appropriately
begins with [water,] from which all kinds of
animals, plants, and trees are born [and]
develop in time...each according to its
nature.” This is interesting because what
he’s going to try to show is that every type
of animal, plant, and tree was generated
from water and earth and gradually
developed into their present forms. In the same paragraph he also speaks of “primordial seeds,
whence all flesh and all vegetation are brought forth.” The reference to “seeds” is an analogy
that he’ll get into a bit later: he compares the origin of species to the bringing forth of trees,
which start out as a seed and then grow out of the earth into their mature form.”
“Moving on, a couple of paragraphs later he gets to the heart of it: “The things [that God] had
potentially created…[came] forth in the course of time on different days according to their
different kinds…[and] the rest of the earth [was] filled with its various kinds of creatures, [which]
produc[ed] their appropriate forms in due time.” (Chapter 7 Paragraph 22) That is evolutionary
thinking. God didn’t create all species of animals all at once, according to St. Augustine; He
created them in a potential kind of way, so that they would develop later, “producing their
appropriate forms in due time.”
“But he has more to say about that: “It is obvious that in accordance with those kinds of
creatures which He first made, God makes many new things which He did not make then.” (New
species from an old genus.) “It is thus that God unfolds the generations which He laid up in
creation when first he founded it.” (Chapter 20 Paragraph 41) After that he explains this by
means of the tree analogy I mentioned earlier.”
http://cainaweb.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/AugustineonEvolution.pdf
“The purpose of the Bible is redemptive, said Augustine. God gave us the Bible to instruct us in the knowledge of salvation, not science. In his Literal Commentary Augustine asked what Scripture teaches about the shape or the form of the heavens, a topic that many ancient writers addressed. Are the heavens spherical or flat like a disc? Or, does it matter? He responded: “Many scholars engage in lengthy discussion on these matters, but the sacred writers with their deeper wisdom have omittedthem. Such subjects are of no profit for those who seek beatitude, and, what is worse, they take up very precious time that ought to be given to what is spiritually beneficial.” These words may seem to suggest that Augustine disparaged science, and he has been interpreted that way by secular-minded readers. He did not think that natural knowledge was worthless, only that it was inferior to knowledge of God, who made nature. Augustine was saying that the biblical authors were not giving a definitive theory of the heavens in a scientific fashion.”
“Augustine warned against a danger among Christians of his day and ours. If the Christian insists on a certain scientific theory as if it were the teaching of the Bible, and it turned out to be wrong, then the unbeliever will reject the Bible wholesale and miss the saving purpose God has in composing it. This danger is so real that Augustine emphasized it a number of times in his writings. Unreliable knowledge of nature is not damning but it can be a stumbling block “if he thinks his view of nature belongs to the very form of orthodox doctrine, and dares obstinately to affirm something he does not understand.” In this case, the Christian’s lack of true knowledge becomes an obstacle to the unbeliever’s embracing the truth of the gospel. The great harm, says the bishop of Hippo, is not that “an ignorant individual is derided” but that “people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions and . . . the writers of Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men.”
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/how-augustine-reined-in-science
ERVs are not based on shared genetics between species but are rather acquired traits that form clear evidence common ancestry.
The phrase “according to its nature” is the opposite of evolution; it is actually Biblical.
Try a logical argument instead of using fallacies (you used proof by assertion and argument from “authority” specifically).
So you admit you cannot disprove even one thing in these videos? How interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBssnELtE94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ_prUuzX50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EPmPA7mvVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bNfUrgb-1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y_15D23tRM
Isaiah 45: 18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Genesis 1:2 And the earth became void and without form ...
Genesis Is the Heavenly Father giving the chronology of His time and events through Moses. Moses is not in the flesh here on God's green earth until the book of Exodus.
Genesis 1:2 is describing the 'overthrow - casting down ' of the devil .. referred to over and over and over again by Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28, by Paul repeatedly, and even Christ Himself. Even Peter gets in on the action of describing THREE heaven and earth ages and the first one had a flood. IIPeter 3. Jeremiah as well describes this flood ...
Ephesians 1: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
This 'foundation of the world' is from the Greek katabolle
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
The whole reason for this 'flesh' age is John 3 ... Those souls/spirit intellect have the 'choice' to take this flesh journey ... born from above ... Well, that is other than the devil, the serpent, the destroyer, king of Babylon, prince of Tyrus and the last role he will be allowed to play is 'Jesus'. Or otherwise called the 'anti-Christ'... instead of Christ...
Burden of proof is not on me. That’s your third logical fallacy thus far.
ERVs conclusively demonstrate that humans and chimps had a common ancestor that was neither human nor chimp.Not according to Hugh Ross's publication, which is scientifically rigorous:
Dr. Finlay asserted this [ERV progenitor] as staggering and incontrovertible evidence for common descent; and taken with his presuppositions, he is absolutely correct. However, his presuppositions are many and, although plausible, they may not be as solid as he or other neo-Darwinian evolutionists think. ....
... 18 independent ERV infection events with similar insertion site specificities offer simpler viable explanations for ERVs that do not track with phylogenetic predictions based on NHP species relatedness. The Reasons to Believe model of common design also offers a simpler explanation for the possibility of multiple ERVs that do not follow primate phylogenetic trees: They serve relevant functions and are not evolutionary artifacts.
Questioning Evolutionary Presuppositions about Endogenous Retroviruses
The musings of a Christian apologist astrophysicist on the subject of evolution interest me not at all. Had you any intellectual honesty they wouldn’t interest you either
I wasn’t suggesting ERVs caused evolution.
Your evidence you requested is in those videos. So are you admitting you are wrong?
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