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Pliny’s Problem With Christianity—And Ours
https://www.heritage.org ^ | Aug 30, 2021 | Joseph Loconte, Ph.D.

Posted on 04/09/2023 12:13:37 AM PDT by Beowulf9

Como, Italy—In the façade of the Cathedral of Santa Maria Assunta, better known as the Como Cathedral, are statues depicting various saints, the Virgin Mary, and the Archangel Gabriel. Also displayed among them, though, is the figure of a Roman official famous for his role in establishing the empire’s policy of persecution against the Christian church.

Not long after being appointed governor over the province of Bithynia-Pontus, in modern-day Turkey, Pliny the Younger wrote to the Emperor Trajan about the growing problem of a new religious sect known as Christians. He put a series of questions to Trajan about their treatment. He professed to be “unaware what is usually punished or investigated, and to what extent.” The emperor’s response, a blend of brutality and pragmatism, helped to cement imperial policy for the next hundred years.

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TOPICS: Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: christianity; epigraphyandlanguage; firstcentury; persecution; plinytheyounger; romanempire; rome; trajan

1 posted on 04/09/2023 12:13:37 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

BTTT


2 posted on 04/09/2023 12:21:58 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Beowulf9

Here’s the ultimate lesson: Christians are still here, Rome is not here. God and one make a majority.


3 posted on 04/09/2023 12:57:04 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Beowulf9

Good thoughts in the article. I am surprised that Pliny was not more intellectually curious about Christianity as he was about other things.
Then again, he was a governor serving at the pleasure of the Emperor and his province would have come first.

We are Rome in so many ways.


4 posted on 04/09/2023 3:04:01 AM PDT by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
God and one make a majority

I agree with your statement with a bit of a change: God [alone] and one make IS a majority.

5 posted on 04/09/2023 4:00:02 AM PDT by Jemian (There is a benefit for Scripture memorization.)
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To: Beowulf9

Bkmk


6 posted on 04/09/2023 4:31:35 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: Adder
We are Rome in so many ways.

In Augustine's City of God (written 412-426) he's often discuss people and incidents from Roman history. It's striking to me how familiar it all sounds. Names of people and wars and such are different, of course, but behaviors and intrigues are the same.

We are them, they are us.

7 posted on 04/09/2023 6:31:02 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("He will swallow up death forever" Isaiah 25)
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One of the lessons of Rome is that the life of extreme privilege weakens the capacity for empathy, which makes persecution of outsiders more plausible.

This reminds me of one particular politician who aspired to be god President who called conservatives "deplorables".

8 posted on 04/09/2023 8:19:04 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Not my fault, yer Honor. I went to the Alec Baldwin School of Firearms Handling. )
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To: Lee N. Field

There is nothing new under the sun.


9 posted on 04/09/2023 8:42:15 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Lee N. Field

Thanks for mentioning that. I’ll look into it.


10 posted on 04/11/2023 6:09:33 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
Thanks for mentioning that. I’ll look into it.

"Chapter 20.—Of the Kind of Happiness and Life Truly Delighted in by Those Who Inveigh Against the Christian Religion.

"But the worshippers and admirers of these gods delight in imitating their scandalous iniquities, and are nowise concerned that the republic be less depraved and licentious. Only let it remain undefeated, they say, only let it flourish and abound in resources; let it be glorious by its victories, or still better, secure in peace; and what matters it to us? This is our concern, that every man be able to increase his wealth so as to supply his daily prodigalities, and so that the powerful may subject the weak for their own purposes. Let the poor court the rich for a living, and that under their protection they may enjoy a sluggish tranquillity; and let the rich abuse the poor as their dependants, to minister to their pride. Let the people applaud not those who protect their interests, but those who provide them with pleasure. Let no severe duty be commanded, no impurity forbidden. Let kings estimate their prosperity, not by the righteousness, but by the servility of their subjects. Let the provinces stand loyal to the kings, not as moral guides, but as lords of their possessions and purveyors of their pleasures; not with a hearty reverence, but a crooked and servile fear. Let the laws take cognizance rather of the injury done to another man’s property, than of that done to one’s own person. If a man be a nuisance to his neighbor, or injure his property, family, or person, let him be actionable; but in his own affairs let everyone with impunity do what he will in company with his own family, and with those who willingly join him. Let there be a plentiful supply of public prostitutes for every one who wishes to use them, but specially for those who are too poor to keep one for their private use. Let there be erected houses of the largest and most ornate description: in these let there be provided the most sumptuous banquets, where every one who pleases may, by day or night, play, drink, vomit, dissipate. Let there be everywhere heard the rustling of dancers, the loud, immodest laughter of the theatre; let a succession of the most cruel and the most voluptuous pleasures maintain a perpetual excitement. If such happiness is distasteful to any, let him be branded as a public enemy; and if any attempt to modify or put an end to it let him be silenced, banished, put an end to. Let these be reckoned the true gods, who procure for the people this condition of things, and preserve it when once possessed. Let them be worshipped as they wish; let them demand whatever games they please, from or with their own worshippers; only let them secure that such felicity be not imperilled by foe, plague, or disaster of any kind. What sane man would compare a republic such as this, I will not say to the Roman empire, but to the palace of Sardanapalus, the ancient king who was so abandoned to pleasures, that he caused it to be inscribed on his tomb, that now that he was dead, he possessed only those things which he had swallowed and consumed by his appetites while alive? If these men had such a king as this, who, while self-indulgent, should lay no severe restraint on them, they would more enthusiastically consecrate to him a temple and a flamen than the ancient Romans did to Romulus. "

11 posted on 04/11/2023 9:01:55 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("He will swallow up death forever" Isaiah 25)
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