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Speaking Of Schisms
The reason For my Faith ^ | 5/21/22 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 05/22/2022 8:47:54 AM PDT by OneVike

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1 posted on 05/22/2022 8:47:54 AM PDT by OneVike
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Sadly, instead of looking into the Scriptures for the Messiah of GOD’s people as they should, (John 5:39) they were more interested in creating traditions that made GOD’s WORD of no effect to HIS people. (Mark 7:13)


We like traditions over the word of God. Why is that?


2 posted on 05/22/2022 8:58:52 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: OneVike

A schism is a division between people, usually belonging to an organization, movement, or religious denominations.


And what is that point of division if truth be told?

Jesus came to divide so division is not a bad thing. What is Jesus point of division?


3 posted on 05/22/2022 9:00:51 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Which is exactly what Mad Marty did with the protestant revolution. Leave over 1500 years of Christian teaching to form his own church made in his image.

And we’ve seen the results since then: 30k plus denominations, all with their own competing teachings.


4 posted on 05/22/2022 9:05:02 AM PDT by Texas_Guy
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Which is exactly what Mad Marty did with the protestant revolution. Leave over 1500 years of Christian teaching to form his own church made in his image.

And we’ve seen the results since then: 30k plus denominations, all with their own competing teachings.


Being RC and $4 will get you a cup of coffee

Being Protestant and $4 will get you a cup of coffee and a glass of water.

Don’t let others, (tradition) tell you what happened. Look to the Bible for the answers. Go to the primary source.


5 posted on 05/22/2022 9:08:44 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I am off to church, I will respond to all questions when I return home


6 posted on 05/22/2022 9:12:48 AM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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I would add, and it's worth mentioning,

That the very first schism involved an angel
Whom we call, satan...

diabolos...


7 posted on 05/22/2022 9:33:03 AM PDT by MurphsLaw (If their purpose is of human origin, it will fail.But if from God, you will not be able to stop them)
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I agree with you. That is in my commentary about half way down.

Throughout the Scriptures, GOD reveals to us the schisms created by men who reject HIS anointed. I guess we could say that the first schism began when Eve bought into the first lie told to her by Satan.
"God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
Genesis 3:5

8 posted on 05/22/2022 9:42:46 AM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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9 posted on 05/22/2022 9:53:16 AM PDT by sauropod ("We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they are elected. Don’t you?" Why? "It saves time.”)
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To: PeterPrinciple

“Jesus came to divide so division is not a bad thing. What is Jesus’ point of division?”

Nailed it.

“Schism” is whatever deviates from the preserved and inspired Word of God.


10 posted on 05/22/2022 10:15:33 AM PDT by avenir (Information overload = Pattern recognition)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Start by asking yourself, “How do I know what books belong in the Bible?” And no, “I read the Table of Contents” isn’t really an answer.


11 posted on 05/22/2022 10:18:01 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: PeterPrinciple

The Bible is a Catholic book. We decided which writings were scripture and which were not based on teachings and tradition.

Then Mad Marty chopped it down to 66 books.

So which Bible do you go with? We’ve seen what the Bible alone teaching creates: schism. Even Mad Marty complained that every milk maid thought they knew what the Bible REALLY says.


12 posted on 05/22/2022 10:21:27 AM PDT by Texas_Guy
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To: OneVike
would actually free the Gospel from the clutches of what became an unholy partnership between church and state

Mr. Ness has this almost exactly backwards. In fact, the Reformation almost everywhere in Europe meant the replacement of the Church of Rome by the state-approved branch of Protestantism. In many churches in England, they actually replaced the crucifix on the "rood screen" (a wooden "bridge" marking the boundary between the nave and the sanctuary) with the Queen's coat of arms, just in case you were in any doubt about who was running the show.

All of those Reformation-era state churches are basically apostate now, and church attendance is a thing of the past.

13 posted on 05/22/2022 10:26:10 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: Campion

Yea right

That’s why the Catholic Church murdered people who dared to read the Scriptures without a priests approval

I can go down the list of why the Catholic Church is wrong on so many ways but I refuse to get in a tit fir tag with anyone over the reasons we diss agree.

I will say this much. When men can chose then they will find Christ, when men are forced to accept Christ they will reject Him.

All we need is to go to Christ, no need fir us to go to or through any mortal man. Only through Christ.

The Catholic Church decided that we need a human High Priest to get messages from Christ. This a Pope who to Catholics is no different than the Hebraic High Priest.

All we need is to call on Christ to be forgiven, not sone mortal man


15 posted on 05/22/2022 11:35:42 AM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Campion

Yea right

That’s why the Catholic Church murdered people who dared to read the Scriptures without a priests approval

I can go down the list of why the Catholic Church is wrong on so many ways but I refuse to get in a tit fir tag with anyone over the reasons we diss agree.

I will say this much. When men can chose then they will find Christ, when men are forced to accept Christ they will reject Him.

All we need is to go to Christ, no need fir us to go to or through any mortal man. Only through Christ.

The Catholic Church decided that we need a human High Priest to get messages from Christ. This a Pope who to Catholics is no different than the Hebraic High Priest.

All we need is to call on Christ to be forgiven, not sone mortal man


16 posted on 05/22/2022 11:35:43 AM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Texas_Guy

. We decided which writings were scripture and which were not based on teachings and tradition.


YOU decided? You decided ?

And there in is the problem. In your view, it was written by man , not God. And Thus RC is a man made religioun.


18 posted on 05/22/2022 12:58:32 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Campion

Start by asking yourself, “How do I know what books belong in the Bible?” And no, “I read the Table of Contents” isn’t really an answer.


I have two choices. It was written by man or by God.

I choose God’s providence and his hand involved in His scripture.

God destroyed the temple, the sacrificial system, the priestly system, tore the curtain separating Himself from man.

RC and many churches rebuilt everything God destroyed. Why?

What exactly is the new Covenant? What does his word say. Do you know?

Jer 31:33 “But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel on that day,” says the LORD. “I will put My instructions deep within them, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be My people.
Jer 31:34 And they will not need to teach their neighbors, nor will they need to teach their relatives, saying, ‘You should know the LORD.’ For everyone, from the least to the greatest, will know Me already,” says the LORD. “And I will forgive their wickedness, and I will never again remember their sins.”

I encourage you to read God’s Word on the New Covenant. It is a personal relationship with Him, not an institutional relationship.

You must be born again, it is a requirement. What does that mean? Born of the Spirit. If God’s Spirit isn’t pointing to His Word, it isn’t the Spirit.


19 posted on 05/22/2022 1:16:28 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: avenir

“Jesus came to divide so division is not a bad thing. What is Jesus’ point of division?”

Nailed it.


So what is Jesus point of division?

The point of division is also the point of unification that should hold all of us together.


20 posted on 05/22/2022 1:21:34 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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