Posted on 01/09/2022 6:03:10 PM PST by marshmallow
Letters from Catholics around the world will be placed in a chest and carried to Rome.
PARIS (LifeSiteNews) — An association of French Catholics is organizing a march from Paris to Rome to convince Pope Francis to temper his restrictions on the Traditional Latin Mass as laid out in the motu proprio Traditionis Custodes.
The march is due to take place this spring, starting in Paris on March 6 and ending in Rome on May 1. It will be held under the motto “all roads lead to Rome.”
The march is organized by La Voie Romaine (the Roman road), an association of French lay faithful attached to the Traditional Latin Mass.
The association was founded in the aftermath of the publication of Pope Francis’ motu proprio Traditionis Custodes which severely restricted the celebration of the traditional Mass and sacraments.
The aim of the association is to collect letters addressed to Pope Francis, expressing the faithful’s attachment to the Traditional Latin Mass, with a view to convince him to come back on some of the restrictions recently issued by the Vatican on the old Mass.
Once collected, the letters will be placed in a chest and carried to Rome. The march will be led by mothers of priests who celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass.
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The “survey” Francis used to clamp down on the TLM in France was mostly not filled out by priests and bishops and when they were, they were hardly anti-TLM as Francis made them out to be.
May God bless and protect these people.
Not a Catholic, but WHY would the pope want a beautiful tradition stifled????? I am truly curious for an answer from a Catholic.
Frank doesn’t care.
I am Catholic, but I can olnly speak for myself. My guess is Francis wishes to encourage the participation of those who want to be part of the Catholic-Lite faith; aka something close to a Nondenominational Church.
A Nondenominational Church is usually not tied to the belief of one true God or even Christianity. I think this pope prefers the Jesuit way of seeing the world in which there is nothing fully evil and there is nothing fully good or even Divine.
From my limited observations, most Jesuits seem to think the way a well trained lawyer or actor with think, where one can argue for or against any point with equal passion. Unlike a lawyer, the Jesuit doesn’t do this as an excercise in learning the law, the Jesuit remains open to all interpretations because they have trained themselves to hold on to very few ‘solid’ beliefs about anything at all.
They should have started protesting years and years ago. Now it’s too little, too late. They should just give up on the RC church and either join something else or start a new church; this one is toast.
the Jesuit remains open to all interpretations because they have trained themselves to hold on to very few ‘solid’ beliefs about anything at all.
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And least of all the doctrines and liturgical traditions of Holy Mother Church that were scheduled for extinction by the Satan Vatican Council(1962-1965).
He will likely deny them entry into Vatican territory. After all that way they’ll have to mail the letters from a post office in Rome.
These protesters are not true traditional Catholics.
Tradition holds that a neither a manifest heretic nor a non-Catholic, by Divine law, can hold office in the Church, especially the papacy. The unprecedented modernist teaching errors of Francis and his recent predecessors has been thoroughly documented.
These protestors hold a modernist view of the papacy, as in, that it could teach error. Meanwhile they are in denial that a true papacy deserves humble submission to its decisions. (C’mon! Protesting a pope’s decision is not traditional!)
On the other hand, the traditional and only Catholic church continues as it were in the catacombs (outside of Vatican II “church” buildings) where true bishops and priests serve their congregations with true and truly effective traditional sacraments while acknowledging the truth that we currently have no pope, though we wish we did, and using the traditional Latin form of the ancient Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
(One such noble group is organized as the CMRI.)
Unless your definition of "to teach error" is pretty narrow and carefully hedged, it is beyond dispute that true Popes have "taught error". (Cf: Liberius and Honorius). Popes have taught false doctrine. They have certainly made errors in administrative matters. What they haven't done is solemnly taught doctrinal error as something de fide definita.
Meanwhile they are in denial that a true papacy deserves humble submission to its decisions. (C’mon! Protesting a pope’s decision is not traditional!)
"Protesting" and "humble submission" aren't quite antonyms. It is perfectly reasonable to protest the actions of a superior, including a Pope (cf Paul vs Peter in Galatians 2, or St. Catherine of Siena to Pope Gregory XI) while simultaneously humbly submitting to them, or continuing to submit to that same superior in other matters proper to their competency.
Where your obedience ends is where your superior commands you to sin. (That doesn't mean that your superior is illegitimate, or that you have no duty to obey him in other areas (again, where proper to his competency).)
In that case, you have a duty in conscience to refuse obedience. (St. Thomas Aquinas taught that ... I hope he's "traditional" enough for you!)
So says the modernist who attacks fellow Catholics on devotional threads.
Let us see how your position compares to the authoritative teaching of Pope Leo XIII below:
“To the shepherds alone was given all power to teach, to judge, to direct; on the faithful was imposed the duty of following their teaching, of submitting with docility to their judgment, and of allowing themselves to be governed, corrected, and guided by them in the way of salvation. Thus, it is an absolute necessity for the simple faithful to submit in mind and heart to their own pastors, and for the latter to submit with them to the Head and Supreme Pastor.” (Epistola Tua)
“…it is to give proof of a submission which is far from sincere to set up some kind of opposition between one Pontiff and another. Those who, faced with two differing directives, reject the present one to hold to the past, are not giving proof of obedience to the authority which has the right and duty to guide them; and in some ways they resemble those who, on receiving a condemnation, would wish to appeal to a future council, or to a Pope who is better informed.” (Epistola Tua)
“That obligation, if it is generally incumbent on all, is, you may indeed say, especially pressing upon journalists…. The task pertaining to them … is this: to be subject completely in mind and will, just as all the other faithful are, to their own bishops and to the Roman Pontiff; to follow and make known their teachings; to be fully and willingly subservient to their influence; and to reverence their precepts and assure that they are respected.” (Epistola Tua)
Do you, or for that matter Pope Leo of happy memory, have any substantive difference with what I wrote? I'm sure Pope Leo was well aware of what the Angelic Doctor wrote in the Summa on the topic of holy obedience, to wit:
Man is subject to God simply as regards all things, both internal and external, wherefore he is bound to obey Him in all things. On the other hand, inferiors are not subject to their superiors in all things, but only in certain things and in a particular way, in respect of which the superior stands between God and his subjects, whereas in respect of other matters the subject is immediately under God, by Whom he is taught either by the natural or by the written law.
Accordingly we may distinguish a threefold obedience; one, sufficient for salvation, and consisting in obeying when one is bound to obey: secondly, perfect obedience, which obeys in all things lawful: thirdly, indiscreet obedience, which obeys even in matters unlawful.
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