Posted on 12/04/2021 9:08:25 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
Dallas Jenkins, son of “Left Behind” author Jerry Jenkins, and Director of the smash-hit TV show The Chosen appeared on a Mormon podcast LDS Living (Latter Day Saint Living) where he offered up why Mormons and are saved and why he considers the many Mormon folks to work on his show to be believers.
Morgan Jones 1 Well, I am so excited about this. I am honestly such a big fan of “The Chosen,” so this is a treat for me. And I’ll be honest with you, I introduced a good number of people to your show because I love it so much, and I asked several of those people for their thoughts on questions that would be good to ask you. So this is really like a group effort in coming up with these questions for you. But first of all, I just want to establish right off the bat, Dallas, you are not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which the majority of our audience are members of the Church. I have been told that you are a fierce defender of the Latter-day Saint belief in Jesus Christ, and that is something that honestly, on behalf of all of us, I just want to say thank you for that. But why is it that you are a defender of our belief in Jesus Christ?
Dallas Jenkins ; Great, so you’re starting off right out of the gate with that one. Well, it’s a tough question. I am happy to answer that and I just say that because I recently have gotten a little bit in trouble in certain circles because I was on another LDS podcast, and I said that LDS and evangelicals love the same Jesus. I got some heat from people who suddenly didn’t want to watch the show anymore because of that. Apparently it’s a controversial statement, which I guess I would have known that a few years ago, but now that I’ve been working with my LDS brothers and sisters over the last couple of years and gotten to know them so well, I’ve learned quite a bit. I come from a strong evangelical background, and I want to say this, and I’ve said this in a few conversations with LDS people, that there are reasons why I’m an evangelical and not LDS. I do have things theologically that I disagree with or things that even just in kind of practice that aren’t quite my speed in the LDS faith. However, one thing that is unabashedly true and unarguably true is that in getting to know some of my LDS friends here on this, especially through “The Chosen,” you’re passionate about Jesus Christ, and it’s Jesus of Nazareth. When I hear people say, “it’s a different Jesus”—and I’ve heard that, by the way, from both… I don’t know what term, I know you guys don’t use the term Mormon anymore, but it’s too long for me to try to say…
Jenkins goes on to explain how if a man describes a third party as being 6’3 tall and someone else says ‘no, he’s 5’10’ but otherwise the rest of their shared knowledge of that friend is agreed upon, then whether or not a few details are off, it’s still the same person that is being referenced and understood. He says in the same way, Mormons and Christians may have a few different ideas about the biblical Jesus, with some of the details being off, but it’s still the same Jesus, and therefore he considers them his brothers and sisters in the Lord and will die on that hill. He concludes:
So even if you are listening to this right now as an evangelical and are horrified to hear me say some of these things, consider that even if you disagree, even if you think that, “No, it’s two different Jesus’s, and they worship two different Saviors, and what you’re saying is wrong.” Fine, believe what you will. I’m not gonna have these arguments with you…I don’t like it when my friends get attacked. So that’s why I tend to be pretty defensive of my friends, even if not always defensive of the theology on which we sometimes disagree...I don’t really care because I can’t be cancelled unless I cancel myself. So I’m totally fine with it. But I’m happy to say, “Yeah, we disagree on some things, but I’m going to die on the hill of, we love the same Jesus, and we want the same Jesus known to the world.”
For a brief overview of the Mormon views on Jesus and other things, they believe that Jesus was once a man who became exalted and turned into a God after doing many good deeds. ‘God the Father’ himself was also once a man on another planet, but because he likewise was such a good Mormon, he was granted the right to become a God over this earth. They believe that they too can become capital ‘G’ Gods of their own planet one day, and in fact, hold that there are millions of Gods. For them, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all and individual separate Gods, and they all have human bodies of flesh- they are not Spirits.
Mormons categorically deny the idea of salvation by grace alone and believe Jesus and Lucifer are spirit brothers and there was nothing miraculous about Jesus’ birth. They believe the scriptures we have are all corrupted and that’s why they have the new revelation of Joseph Smith
Non woke bkmk
I believe some Mormons are saved but it is despite their church’s teachings not because of it.
When the Chosen starts quoting from the Book of Nephi, that’s when I jump off the bandwagon.
Exactly. The process of being saved is really very simple and is not dependent on the church or religion of the believer. There are going to be some folks who will be shocked at who the Lord lets into Heaven, I suspect.
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I have prayed that will be true.
The more you dig the more you see the differences. The Jesus of the Bible and the Jesus of the Mormons are miles apart.
In the end the Mormons have a similar ontological problem that Islam does: they hold that a new prophet was both needed and has come. Those are not alone in this.
Now, Moses did speak of a prophet to come after him, and this must be what Christ spoke of when He said that Moses had spoken of Him, but it seems clear that Christ is in fact the final Word, as well as the first. Jesus never spoke of another to come after Him.
Neither did those that He chose.
Moreover another common thread seems to be the idea that the Church could lose the Gospel that has been given once for all time, which would mean that the Holy Spirit could somehow have not been able to preserve a remnant — and make no mistake about it: claiming to be a remnant of that which can be preserved is very different from claiming to need a new revelation.
Man cannot be stronger than the Lord, and that includes that not even our combined mendacity and foolishness can be stronger than His reach to preserve that which He has given. People do not erase the Gospel by their unbelief, they only insure that their names are not written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.
“A Brief Overveiw,, “
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Planet Golob and
Celestial sex to add.
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They have beliefs
Like Scientology.
Without mercy and grace there is no Salvation. You can never work your way to God which is why the cult is man.
Yep.
Not even Grape Nehi can keep me around then. *bada*boom*kisk*
But more seriously, did not Paul write that even if he or an angel came proclaiming a different gospel than the Gospel that they should be considered accursed?
If they believe that Jesus is the Son of God who died for their sins and accept His sacrifice, they are saved.
“For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
John 3:16
Whosoever includes Mormons.
“ They have beliefs
Like Scientology.”
Best South Park of them all.
“This is what Mormons actually believe.”
*pingaroo*
Very disappointing. I thought Dallas was a bit more spiritually mature than this. Doesnt want to see his friends attacked at the expense of their eternal soul. So sad. But,Gods elect will not be lost...He will work thru someone else to effect their saving.
They lost me at the magic underpants.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Mormons-believe-Trinity.html Good explanation.
There is only ONE GOD . . . God in Three Persons. . .Blessed Trinity (God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit)
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