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[Catholic Caucus] Faithful of canceled parish in Mexico warn of ‘eventual extinction’ of Latin Mass
LifeSite News ^ | September 27, 2021 | Maike Hickson

Posted on 09/27/2021 8:46:21 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Faithful of canceled parish in Mexico warn of ‘eventual extinction’ of Latin Mass

The faithful warn of ‘an eventual extinction of the celebration of the Mass according to the Missal of St. John XXIII in the Archdiocese of Guadalajara.’

Mon Sep 27, 2021 - 2:35 pm EDTMon Sep 27, 2021 - 2:35 pm EDT

(LifeSiteNews) — After Cardinal Francisco Robles Ortega of Guadalajara, Mexico, published a decree on September 21, in which he canonically suppresses the quasi-parish St. Peter in Chains run by the Fraternity of St. Peter, the faithful now ask the cardinal “to be heard and for the mandate to be reversed.” 150 families are affected by this sudden and harsh decision.

As LifeSite has reported, the decision of the cardinal came as a surprise. An official spokesman for the Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP) told LifeSite that the FSSP had “not been consulted at any point throughout the process,” and that the FSSP is now seeking “a proper conversation with officials in the chancery,” after which they will issue a formal response.

“For ex-parishioners, who received the news with great surprise, this measure has the forebodes an eventual extinction of the celebration of the Mass according to the Missal of St. John XXIII in the Archdiocese of Guadalajara especially because, despite an announcement in a press conference last July by Cardinal Robles Ortega indicating he would first dialogue with the FSSP, there were no conversations on the subject prior to the declaration,” the faithful wrote. They now fear the extinction of the traditional rite.

But the lay faithful do take their fate into their own hands by approaching the press and asking the cardinal for a re-evaluation of his harsh decision, which has caused a real pastoral crisis for a traditional community which was flourishing, brought forth conversions, and was active in the field of practical charity such as feeding the poor and visiting the sick.

This incident shows that Pope Francis, with his motu proprio Traditionis Custodes essentially banning the traditional Latin liturgy and the communities attached to it has created a pastoral crisis that will affect many faithful Catholics throughout the world. For this reason, more than 100 prominent lay Catholics have already published a statement declaring they will not allow the Pope to deprive their children of this ancient rite. Among the signatories are Phil Lawler, George Neumayr, Maureen Mullarkey, Martin Mosebach, Eric Sammons, and many more.

These lay Catholics wrote on September 8: “We will not let anyone deprive the faithful of this treasure which is first of all that of the Church. We will not remain inactive in the face of the spiritual suffocation of vocations laid forth in the Motu proprio Traditionis Custodes. We will not deprive our children of this privileged mean+s of transmitting the faith which is faithfulness to the traditional liturgy.”

Full press release written by the Catholics of the former quasi-parish of Guadalajara:

Faithful Ask To Be Heard by Cardinal Francisco Robles Ortega

More than 150 families left in distress

In view of the decree issued by Cardinal Francisco Robles Ortega in which he suppresses the quasi-parish of San Pedro en Cadenas in Guadalajara, Mexico, the parishioners who were once part of it are asking to be heard and for the mandate to be reversed.

Without previous dialogue on the part of the Archdiocese with the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP) nor with the parishioners, the quasi-parish that had as its seat the Church of Our Lady of Pilar in the Historic Center of Guadalajara was eradicated, leaving the parishioners without a series of canonical rights and thus more than 150 families in distress who used to be part of it.

The mandate was issued with the justification of putting into effect the motu proprio Traditionis Custodes(Guardians of the Tradition) issued by Pope Francis in July of this year, where he points out a list of measures to be implemented regarding the Eucharistic celebrations under the Roman Missal of 1962, and leaving to the diocesan bishops the exclusive competence to authorize, in their dioceses, the use of that Missal.

It should be noted that nowhere in the pontifical document does it suggest or mandate the suppression of parishes or quasi-parishes already erected under the previous motu proprio Summorum Pontificum issued by Pope Benedict XVI or before. For ex- parishioners, who received the news with great surprise, this measure has the forebodes an eventual extinction of the celebration of the Mass according to the Missal of St. John XXIII in the Archdiocese of Guadalajara especially because, despite an announcement in a press conference last July by Cardinal Robles Ortega indicating he would first dialogue with the FSSP, there were no conversations on the subject prior to the declaration.

The edict destroys the work of more than a decade of a devout and vibrant community and leaves the faithful with the uncertainty of who will be responsible in the long term for the celebrations of the Traditional Mass, since it does not ratify the priests of the FSSP in their pastoral responsibility for the faithful with whom they have labored since 2009.

This is unfortunate since the priests of this society of apostolic life are experts in these celebrations and their charisma and reason for existing is to attend the parishioners who desire to attend so called Tridentine Mass.

Although the Eucharistic celebrations will continue, they will be limited to the existing ones without being able to celebrate masses for weddings, funerals, or first communions without seeking permission. Meanwhile the documents fails to specify from whom such permissions must now be sought. In addition, they will only be able to be held in the Church of Our Lady of the Pilar, San Javier de las Colinas and in the chapel of Casa Cristo Rey, where the priests of the FSSP in Guadalajara are located.

The parishioners are afraid of being left without the ancient rite that was used by the Catholic Church for more than 1,500 years and that was changed to the so-called Novus Ordo after the Second Vatican Council. The worry stems from that fact that around the world some bishops have eradicated these celebrations completely, such as in the Diocese of Alajuela, Costa Rica, where they suddenly canceled the only Latin Mass in the country and suspended the diocesan priest who celebrated it for deciding, in response, to celebrate the Novus Ordo in Latin. Despite these measures, which the parishioners point out as cruel and unjust, they have reaffirmed their unwavering fidelity and service to the Catholic Church and the successor of St. Peter, hoping to be heard by Cardinal Francisco Robles Ortega.

FRUITS

In the little more than twelve years that the FSSP has been in Guadalajara, many people have returned to the Catholic Church and to the practice of their faith thanks to its apostolic work. During this time, the community has given the Church four priests, one religious sister, conversions and baptisms of non-Christian adults who are following an authentic spiritual growth. Parishioners participate in a variety of groups, catechesis, and apostolic work such as feeding the poor at hospitals, working in an orphanage, evangelizing in the street, conducting door to door missions, and attending the sick and dying in the hospitals at night and when people come to them because their own priests can’t be found.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: apostatepope; dictatorpope; tlm; vcii
In the little more than twelve years that the FSSP has been in Guadalajara, many people have returned to the Catholic Church and to the practice of their faith thanks to its apostolic work. During this time, the community has given the Church four priests, one religious sister, conversions and baptisms of non-Christian adults who are following an authentic spiritual growth.
1 posted on 09/27/2021 8:46:21 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; DuncanWaring; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; markomalley; ...

Ping


2 posted on 09/27/2021 8:47:13 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

The Latin Mass will be around long after the current pope and cardinals meet their judgement. The Mass maybe underground but still with us.


3 posted on 09/27/2021 9:09:36 PM PDT by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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To: MurphsLaw; amihow
Rotten Fruit of VC II Ping

VC II is referenced seven times in dictator Bergoglio's "Traditionis Custodes" (more aptly named "Perditor Traditionis") and referenced 28 times in the apostate pope's accompanying letter.

The Council of Trent is mentioned once in a very disingenuous manner:

I (Bergoglio) take comfort in this decision from the fact that, after the Council of Trent, St. Pius V also abrogated all the rites that could not claim a proven antiquity, establishing for the whole Latin Church a single Missale Romanum.

Which is a lie by an apostate pope. Pope St. Pius V allowed all rites that were 200 years or older to continue. He suppressed all rites less than 200 years old.

Bergoglio is an anti-Pius V, if not an anti-pope in toto.

The heretic pope is supressing a 1500 year old rite and imposing a "mass" less than 55 years old on the entire Church.

4 posted on 09/27/2021 9:17:34 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: JerryBlackwell; Al Hitan; DuncanWaring; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; ...

See Post #4.


5 posted on 09/27/2021 9:18:46 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: MurphsLaw; amihow
P.S. The FSSP has never criticized VC II, that's why they were in good standing; that is until July 16, 2021.

Rotten tree - rotten fruit.

6 posted on 09/27/2021 9:22:33 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: JerryBlackwell

For these families no need to even go underground. The SSPX has a priory in Guadalajara. Will probably just have to expand the chapel.


7 posted on 09/27/2021 9:55:32 PM PDT by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: ebb tide

Who cares what this “pope” thinks about the Latin Mass?

The Mass of Ages will always be with us, will always have it’s priests and it’s faithful. As in times in ages past, it may be necessary to pray this Mass “underground” - but as long as the world exits, so will it.

It will easily outlast the present papal usurper who shortly intends to attempt to finish off the faith in the coming synod, but most of what will emerge from that can easily be disregarded if indicated.


8 posted on 09/27/2021 10:03:10 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: rmichaelj
Ultimately the Latin Mass is likely to hold up better in the U.S. than anywhere else in the world. That’s because much of our CIVIL law is built on a distrust of authority — especially religious authority.

The Latin Mass will survive — and even thrive — in places where the parishioners own the property separately from the diocese and can therefore ignore any edicts by the pope or local bishop.

9 posted on 09/28/2021 12:14:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: JerryBlackwell

The Latin Mass will be kept visibly apparent forever as the FSSP will never let it fade.


10 posted on 09/28/2021 3:28:47 AM PDT by chopperk
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To: chopperk

RETURNTOTRADITION.COM


11 posted on 09/28/2021 3:29:53 AM PDT by chopperk
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To: chopperk
The Latin Mass will be kept visibly apparent forever as the FSSP will never let it fade.

What?

They're evidently letting in fade in Guadalajara and Dijon, France.

12 posted on 09/28/2021 9:54:17 PM PDT by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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