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Trans men 'unknowingly admitted' to Catholic seminaries, bishops' committee alleges
National Catholic Reporter ^ | September 24, 2021 | Brian Fraga

Posted on 09/25/2021 8:55:14 PM PDT by ebb tide

Trans men 'unknowingly admitted' to Catholic seminaries, bishops' committee alleges

A leader of the U.S. bishops' conference has written to Catholic prelates throughout the country, alleging that an unspecified number of transgender men have been "unknowingly admitted" to diocesan seminaries and houses of formation for religious orders.

Milwaukee Archbishop Jerome Listecki, who serves as the chairman of the bishops' Committee on Canonical Affairs and Church Governance, told the nation's bishops in a Sept. 22 memo that they might consider "various options" to ensure that only people assigned male at birth are ordained to the Catholic priesthood.

Among the recommendations are DNA testing and certification from a medical expert of the bishop's choosing.  

Rocco Palmo, who writes the blog Whispers in the Loggia, first reported the memo, titled "Transgenderism and Seminary Formation," via Twitter on Sept. 23. Palmo's initial tweet sparked a range of incredulous replies, with some people comparing the memo to medieval practices that involved physically checking priesthood candidates.

A spokeswoman for the Archdiocese of Milwaukee referred questions from NCR about the memo to the bishops' conference. Chieko Noguchi, a spokesman for the conference, declined to comment.

While mainline Protestant and nondenominational Christian seminaries have increasingly welcomed transgender students, the Catholic Church has taken an unbending stance on transgender issues.

Pope Francis has often spoken out against what he refers to as "gender ideology." In 2019, the Vatican's Congregation for Catholic Education released an extensive statement in which it asserted that gender theory seeks to "annihilate the concept of nature."

In his recent memo, Listecki says his committee had been made aware of "instances where it had been discovered that a woman living under a transgendered identity" had been admitted to a seminary or a religious institute's house of formation.

In one instance, Listecki wrote, an individual's "sacramental records had been fraudulently obtained to reflect her new identity. In all instances, nothing in these individuals' medical or psychological reports had signaled past treatments or pertinent surgeries."

The archbishop also wrote that "luckily" each case of a transgender seminarian or religious in training had been discovered before they received the sacrament of Holy Orders.

The memo cites the 1983 Code of Canon Law, which requires the diocesan bishop to admit to major seminary and to ordain "only men who possess the requisite physical and psychological qualities."

"Moreover, a diocesan bishop can require various means to establish moral certitude in this regard," Listecki also wrote, adding that the committee encouraged him to write the bishops about those occurrences so that they would "exercise special vigilance" as a new year of seminary formation begins.



TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: bidenvoters; francischurch; homos; invalidmasses; invalidpriests; tranny; transgender
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The archbishop also wrote that "luckily" each case of a transgender seminarian or religious in training had been discovered before they received the sacrament of Holy Orders.

Have they all been found?

1 posted on 09/25/2021 8:55:14 PM PDT by ebb tide
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Ping


2 posted on 09/25/2021 8:56:15 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Infiltrating to destroy the church from within.


3 posted on 09/25/2021 8:58:04 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: ebb tide

One would think that the requirement that a baptismal certificate be produced, if followed, should largely manage to deal with this.


4 posted on 09/25/2021 9:05:00 PM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: MurphsLaw; amihow; edwinland
Pope Francis Offers Support for Nun’s Ministry with Transgender Women


5 posted on 09/25/2021 9:12:54 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Hieronymus

I’d prefer DNA testing. We could very well already have trans “priests” now baptizing children with nefarious intentions for their futures.


6 posted on 09/25/2021 9:20:23 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Before I read any further, trans men are the ones with uteruses and vaginas, right ? The men who menstruate and give birth.


7 posted on 09/25/2021 9:28:59 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: libh8er

Yes, it’s an Obamanation.


8 posted on 09/25/2021 9:48:03 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: libh8er

*** Before I read any further, trans men are the ones with uteruses and vaginas, right ? The men who menstruate and give birth. ***

Replace the word trans when you see it, with the word “fake”.
Makes it easier to keep it correct.


9 posted on 09/25/2021 9:49:05 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: ebb tide

You know the joke about pregnant nuns? Well, now we can have jokes about pregnant priests.


10 posted on 09/25/2021 9:54:13 PM PDT by fini
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To: libh8er

trans men....start out as a man, attempts to become woman. That’s a man baby!


11 posted on 09/25/2021 10:13:01 PM PDT by LibertyWoman (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: libh8er

I think the narrative is, it is “hate” to say there is such a thing as men and women, however you must support men who want to be surgically altered to look like women.


12 posted on 09/25/2021 10:25:53 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: ebb tide

Have any trans “women” been admitted to a convent?


13 posted on 09/25/2021 10:30:20 PM PDT by NetAddicted ( Just looking)
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To: sockmonkey; libh8er

*** Before I read any further, trans men are the ones with uteruses and vaginas, right ? The men who menstruate and give birth. ***

Replace the word trans when you see it, with the word “fake”.
Makes it easier to keep it correct.

^ ^ ^ ^ ^

And “assigned male at birth” means REAL male.


14 posted on 09/25/2021 10:33:08 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: ebb tide

OH BS!!! they probably know and do not care.


15 posted on 09/26/2021 4:29:13 AM PDT by ronniesgal (if more folks minded their own business the world would be a better place.)
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To: Hieronymus

I was thinking the same thing, but I notice that the article refers to a situation in which sacramental records had been falsified.


16 posted on 09/26/2021 6:12:57 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: LibertyWoman

No. Pretty sure when they say “trans man” they mean it’s a female who is pretending to be a male.


17 posted on 09/26/2021 6:14:57 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: Trillian

Exactly.

Holy Spirit, cleanse Your Church. Send us good and faithful shepherds.


18 posted on 09/26/2021 6:16:14 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: thecodont

I use biological male to avoid ambiguity, or maybe I should use “genetic male” to really avoid ambiguity.


19 posted on 09/26/2021 6:20:03 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: ebb tide

Who is sending these women to become priests? Who is recommending them and vouching for them? Perhaps a physical should be given before being accepted to a seminary.


20 posted on 09/26/2021 6:26:58 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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