Here he goes again with that "spirit" that he is so infatuated with: 
Posted on 09/03/2021 6:49:31 PM PDT by marshmallow
In his Wednesday general audience, the pontiff appealed on World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation to work together for our shared home. He also announced a coming joint message on the environmental crisis with Patriarch Bartholomew and Anglican Primate Welby.
Vatican City (AsiaNews) – Pope Francis held his weekly general audience in the Paul VI Hall today, focusing on his catechesis on the Apostle Paul's Letter to the Galatians.
In his address, the pontiff asked: “How do we live our faith? Are we attached to the precious treasure, to the beauty of the newness of Christ, or do we prefer something that attracts us momentarily but then leaves us empty inside?”
His reflection centred on the reproach the apostle addressed to the community (Gal 3:1-3), going so far as to call them “foolish”. For him, “This is not something new, this explanation, it is something mine: what we are studying is what Saint Paul says in a very serious conflict.”
The apostle uses this word not because “they are not intelligent, but because, almost without realising it, they risk losing the faith in Christ that they have received with so much enthusiasm. They are foolish because they are unaware that the danger is that of losing the valuable treasure, the beauty, of the newness of Christ.”
Saint Paul’s goal is “to compel Christians to realise what is at stake, so they do not allow themselves to be enchanted by the voice of the sirens who want to lead them to a religiosity based solely on the scrupulous observance of precepts.”
Formalism is a danger that is always present in the life of the Church; hence, the question: “how do we live our faith? Does the love of Christ, crucified and risen again, remain at the centre of our.......
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What spirit?
Here he goes again with that "spirit" that he is so infatuated with:
Sounds like a Methodist.
The “spirit” and the word, as in Bible, never conflict. Test the spirit to the word. And most things don’t need testing. The Bible already covers it. Fool......
He is clueless...
In Galatians chapter 2 we see at the beginning until verse 16 where St. Paul lays it all out to Pope St. Peter and the church that circumcision will not save a person and that one doesn’t have to be circumcised to be saved.
He then says in verse 16 to complete it, Douay-Rheims:
[16] But knowing that man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ; we also believe in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: because by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified. [17] But if while we seek to be justified in Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners; is Christ then the minister of sin? God forbid. [18] For if I build up again the things which I have destroyed, I make myself a prevaricator. [19] For I, through the law, am dead to the law, that I may live to God: with Christ I am nailed to the cross. [20] And I live, now not I; but Christ liveth in me. And that I live now in the flesh: I live in the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and delivered himself for me.
He carries this over into chapter 3:
[1] O senseless Galatians, who hath bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been set forth, crucified among you? [2] This only would I learn of you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? [3] Are you so foolish, that, whereas you began in the Spirit, you would now be made perfect by the flesh? [4] Have you suffered so great things in vain? If it be yet in vain. [5] He therefore who giveth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you; doth he do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of the faith?
St. Paul is saying Judaism cannot save them. If they no longer need to have the ritual of circumcision, then what good would following moons, Saturday Sabbaths, etc, do for them?
The Decalogue was carried over as verses in Sacred Scripture in the New Testament point to, to not commit adultery, murder, etc, show, as t3jis is the eternal law of God.
And the moral law was carried over as also seen in scriptures, but the judicial precepts and rituals were not carried over.
Translation: Forget the bible and the catechism, that’s rigid formalism. Follow what I say instead.
That’s pretty much what the False Prophet would say. My bet is still riding on him as the one who follows the Antichrist around, bringing the world together with a one world religion as the Antichrist brings the world together with a one world government.
And my bet is that this pope knows who that political wonder is.
That's not how the Bible says to do it.
1 John 4.
4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are of God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit which does not confess Jesus is not of God. This is the spirit of antichrist, of which you heard that it was coming, and now it is in the world already.
Isaiah 8:20
“To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.”
Out of context on your part.
The full quote in context:
19 When someone tells you to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not a people inquire of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living? 20 Consult God’s instruction and the testimony of warning. If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn. 21 Distressed and hungry, they will roam through the land; when they are famished, they will become enraged and, looking upward, will curse their king and their God. 22 Then they will look toward the earth and see only distress and darkness and fearful gloom, and they will be thrust into utter darkness.
It’s talking about Fortune-Tellers; astrology and the occult and such
>>>It’s talking about Fortune-Tellers; astrology and the occult and such>>>
Exactly.....lying spirits. Satan can counterfeit and even be a lying spirit. Saul went to consult the witch who “perceived” it was Samuel they saw. The Bible says the dead sleep and know nothing. It wasn’t Samuel they saw. The witch of Endor didn’t see Samuel. She saw a lying spirit. We test spirits to the word...and there is no conflict. We get into trouble when we have more “spirit” then the word. The word does not lie.
Show me in the Old Testament passage itself, the proof it wasn’t Samuel.
Doesn’t the text *say* Samuel?
If so, why are you twisting Scripture to fit your manmade doctrine that the witch saw a lying spirit?
Yes, we should test the spirits. Yes, there are lying spirits (the passage in 1 Kings 22 about “Who will entice Ahab to fall at Ramoth Gilead?” isn’t clear in translation whether it was an obedient angel volunteering or a demon; God’s reply to the angels makes it sound like it was an angel volunteering); yes, there are many spirits who have gone forth into the world (1 John 4).
I disagree about testing Spirits to the word; in that it is *one* test (”no-one speaking by the Spirit of God says ‘Jesus be cursed’ “); there is *disagreement* about the applicability of Paul’s “if we, or an angel from Heaven preach a different Gospel, let him be accursed”; but 1 John 4 says to test the spirits in that every Spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God.
And you know, I kinda think that Jesus’ own MOTHER is going to pretty much be the FIRST one to confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. She would know./dry>
>>Doesn’t the text *say* Samuel?>>
It says “perceives” it was Samuel. The Bible says the dead are not aware of anything under the sun, they “know nothing”.....Jesus said the dead are asleep. They will be raised on the last day. Only God is immortal. The Bible knows nothing of a disembodied soul. Do a study on the word spirit and soul and Genesis 2:7 tells us what we are made of.....God’s breath (spirit) PLUS the dust and we BECOME a living soul. We are not GIVEN a living soul.
The doctrine of a disembodied soul comes from pagan greeks. Rome adopted it for purgatory, prayers to saints, eternal torture in hell and on and on.
Do a study on the dead. They sleep .....David is asleep. Lazarus was asleep until Jesus came to raise him.
And they “Perceived” it was Samuel. Samuel was asleep and sleeps until the judgement. Satan can perform miracles and imitate. Read the text again....let the Bible interpret itself. Only God is immortal. We die and when we die we are dead. Not alive as a disembodied soul.
Funny, Revelation specifically mentions the souls of the martyrs crying out to God for justice. And then there’s that parable of the rich man and Lazarus. Should I believe you, or the Scriptures ... tough decision ... (not really) ...
Nothing there about sleeping until the judgment.
And if you think *Rome* adopted a pagan doctrine for "eternal torture in Hell" you're missing the words of Jesus “28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” (Matt 10:28)
That's the King James, so don't try to blame that translation on Rome. :-D
“This day you shall be with me in Paradise.”
Except Punctuation is not in the original transcripts. They were added by translators. Move the comma to the left and Jesus says........”I say to you today, you shall be with me in paradise.”
Now, lets see if that’s correct and let the Bible interpret itself? Later on Jesus says AFTER his resurrection...”do not touch me for I have not yet ascended to my Father.”
It’s amazing if we let the Bible interpret itself. :
John 20:17:
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Hey Eistain.
Did they HAVE commas in the original language the texts were written in? You just said there was no punctuation.
But I surfed over to BibleGateway.
Every major translation give is as, I say to you, TODAY you shall be with me.
Surprised by that, I looked at the Strong’s Exhaustive concordance, and then the commentaries.
The concordance gave the word σήμερον for today.
Then the commentaries all agreed upon not “Today I say to you” but rather “I say to you, today you will be with me.”
https://biblehub.com/commentaries/luke/23-43.htm
Biblehub isn’t any uniquely, you know, Catholic site or anything.
Bengel’s Gnomen
Luke 23:43. Σήμερον, to-day) On that day the converted robber could have hardly looked for death.[262] But the breaking of the legs was made subservient to this end. Thereby the Lord’s promise was fulfilled. [The marking of the time by the expression, to-day, is not to be referred (joined) to the verb, I say, as if the robber should have to wait for his entrance into Paradise during I know not how long periods of time. That the words were spoken to him on that day, is of itself evident (without it being necessary to say so). Jesus never used the expression, To-day I say; whereas He repeatedly used the expression, I say. Therefore we must read the words thus, To-day shalt thou be with Me in paradise.
You’re over-reaching.
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