Posted on 08/27/2021 5:25:31 PM PDT by patriot torch
To the scoffers, that door is about to close.
To My fellow Born Again Christians, look up for your redemption draweth nigh
“thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.”
As his Kingdom comes to earth the Light gets brighter and the Holy Spirit gets stronger. It’s happening NOW.
There is no biblical reference to the “church age” in Daniel.
Daniel asks God for a time line of the events leading up to the Messiah’s coming Kingdom, and God reveals it to him. The length of that time line is approximately six hundred years. But to make their system work, rapturists divide that six hundred years into two parts and insert an additional two thousand years in between incorrectly called the church age.
Daniel’s visions end with the rock that was not hewn by any human hand (Jesus) destroying the pagan empire of roma and becoming a mountain covering the earth.
Christ’s kingdom is not of the earth.
Nowhere does it say that “Christ will be physically present on earth, reigning from the throne of David in Israel.” Nowhere does this passage even imply a physical, earthly kingdom in Jerusalem, Israel. It seems almost blasphemous to picture Christ seated on a throne doing administrative tasks, involved in ruling the day-to-day affairs of the earth. Rather, His Kingdom is spiritual. His Kingdom is universal. His Kingdom is ecclesiastical.
No one living on the earth will be exempt from tribulation.
Paul told the Thessalonian saints, “...when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation” (1 Thes. 3:4). In a second epistle he stated, “we ourselves glory in... your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure” (2 Thes. 1:4). He taught other saints that, “we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience” (Rom. 5:3) and “we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God” (Acts 14:22). Matthew quotes Christ as saying that except the “great tribulation” were “shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened” (Matt. 24:21-22). This is also the theme of the parable of the wheat and the tares (Matt. 13:24-30, 36-52).
Unfortunately the New Testament has been misread for 2000 years. The End Times already occurred in 70AD when Daniel’s 70 weeks were fulfilled after the Romans destroyed the Jewish Temple and all of Israel/Judea. Bible research now shows that Paul didn’t author First Thessalonians. This epistle and many, many, more were forged by Lucius, the Bishop of Cyrene. He initially forged Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 using the book by Flavius Josephus [The Wars of the Jews] and he then borrowed his own forgery for inclusion in First Thessalonians, an epistle published after 78AD and at a time when Paul had been dead for 14 years Nero executed Paul in October 64AD. Since the epistle is the fiction of Lucius, there is no truth in any of it, and none of the things he forecasts will ever happen, including the Rapture.
You Rapturists claim that the resurrection language requires this passage to be placed at the end of the Great Tribulation, when they claim that one of the final resurrections occurs.
However, Daniel 12:2-3 is mention of a spiritual resurrection is still referring to the time of Antiochus’s persecution. This phrase describes the revival of biblical Judaism under the Maccabees after the great battle of Vision III:D. After the defeat of Antiochus, the Temple was restored, the people of God were renewed, and biblical Judaism was resurrected. Indeed, there was a spiritual rebirth in Jerusalem.
The final vision begins with Daniel 12:5. Daniel is told that he cannot understand more than he already knows, ie the Messianic kingdom inaugurated with Jesus’s first coming. The mysteries of the Kingdom “are shut up and sealed until the time of the end.” ie until 33 AD
This helps us to make sense of the last phrase in 12:4, which leads into this vision. Daniel is told to “seal up the book, until the time of the end … and knowledge shall increase.” Daniel is being told about a very specific knowledge, which will shed light on the meaning of his visions. This knowledge concerns the mystery of the Messiah’s Kingdom. That is the knowledge that will increase at the end, when the Messiah appears. Cars and computers are wonderful developments, but they are not what Daniel had them in mind in this vision.
Most people misunderstand scripture because they don’t know who really wrote it. Paul was dead for over 14 years when second Thessalonians was forged by Lucius, the Bishop of Cyrene. And other than Chapter 17 and a few verses of Chapter 1, Lucius forged everything else in Revelation. This Bishop was very busy in the first century and nobody has known it for the last 20 centuries.
“Be surprised if we make it to the 70’s. Actually from the earliest days of Christianity the second coming and God’s retribution was impenitent due to the condition of the world.”
I was about to say, 70 AD was no doubt viewed as being pretty close to end of the world for Christians AND Jews.
In 2nd Timothy Paul talks about how in the “last days” difficult times will come. (Paul was in his final days in prison, awaiting his death sentence). “Men will be lovers of self, money, boastful, without self control, etc.”
The “last days” have been since Jesus was resurrected. But of course the same human conditions were around before that as well.
“I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, ‘Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people and God himself will be with them as their God’” (Revelation 21:1-3).
Disclaimer - I don’t believe in the Rapture. However, I DO believe that Jesus will return to Earth and make it right again. There is the verse about the end times being like the times of Noah. The bad folks were “taken away” and the righteous remained. That would fit with Jesus coming back to earth and reigning here on earth.
I figure that God’s perfect plan in the beginning had Him walking on Earth and in the Garden with Adam and Eve. It wouldn’t surprise me if He wants that as the ultimate relationship again.
That said - who am I to fully understand what God’s ultimate plan is? Other than it will be great, and that I should trust Him. (A “new Earth” would imply that earth as we know it will be gone. Whether this new earth is physical remains to be seen. Heh - even if it is “just” spiritual - will we even notice - or care!?)
The Rapture and the Resurrection are one. The Rapture is the Resurrection of those who have died with the hope of being Resurrected by faith in Jesus Christ. Just as Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead. Just as Jesus Himself was raised from the dead.
Paul said to die is gain, and to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
When the time comes those yet alive will also be Resurrected (1’st Thessalonians 4:13-18) and we will then be transformed and receive our glorified bodies, both the living and the dead (1’st Corinthians 15:42-55)
You asked a rhetorical question you got a rhetorical answer.
Are you out on the streets right now telling people about Christ?
How about if you knew he was coming 2 hours from now?
Nope, I did not ask a rhetorical question. As I said, it was a serious one.
Perhaps some of the questions being asked here are the wrong questions.
Thanks for posting, bro!
Amen. The Trumpet will soon sound. Its about time to be transported to our Eternal mansion, and streets of transparent gold.
And that really is my point. It seems that people look for reasons to clutch their pearls and dwell on the human condition. As I noted, I see what we are currently going through as very similar to the turbulent 60’s and much of the 70’s. I prefer not to live in fear but not to live stupidly. People love to dwell in the eschatology.
The Hosea Three day Prophecy
The fake pre tribulation rapture philosophy forgets that Paul wrote that we would welcome the Lord and come with Him to earth at his second coming.
No secret rapture.
No 7 years in the clouds.
There is only one second coming.
“Transparent gold”. Then how would you know it was gold if it was transparent.
And a trumpet means no secret rapture. So the entire “left behind” nonsense is unbiblical.
As your faith is so be it unto you. As for me and my house we will serve the Lord.
Now, run along back to your astrology or Greek mythology or whatever you believe. Have a great night!
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