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ROMANS 8:28, 8 - 10
[8] For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God;
[9] Not of works, that no man may glory.
[10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus in good works, which God hath prepared that we should walk in them.
THE CHURCH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SALVATION.
I join in Msgr. Pope’s prayer.
John 3:3 “Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
If you are fortunate enough to be Baptized, had your First Communion and been Confirmed, all you need is Last Rights and you are into Heaven. At the least, that is what the Nuns told me, lol.
Except for that evolution thing (the church fathers were "men of their time").
The trouble with Catholicism is that they cannot understand WHAT God’s grace actually is. They may talk about it but they really don’t have a clue since they cannot distinguish between God’s grace and “man’s free will”. Thus they talk in endless circles never really understanding God’s grace. The Council of Trent dismissed the early church fathers’ writings and divided God’s grace into two parts (actual grace and sanctifying grace). Today the Catholic Church cannot give a simple definition of grace without a lot of gobbly-gook. If you think I’m being a bit harsh, I would call people attention to the Catholic Encyclopedia New Advent and the definition of grace. See if you can read through the definition before giving up half way down.
Protestants (most) simply define God’s grace as “the spontaneous, unmerited gift of the divine favour in the salvation of sinners, and the divine influence operating in man for his regeneration and sanctification.” That’s it. Period. It’s that simple. This btw was how the early church fathers viewed it. Amazing how men muddle up God’s simple words and makes thing far more complex then they need to be. But then, that is what the Pharisees did, isn’t it.
So when these types of articles pop up, it should be made clear that the Catholic Church doesn’t have the foggiest idea of what grace is despite all the talk about it.