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...The pope’s decision, he said, “will unquestionably divide Catholics further. I think that even many of those who have no particular sympathy for the traditional liturgy or its follows will be repelled by the callous lack of pastoral charity which this change evinces.”...
1 posted on 07/17/2021 9:53:15 AM PDT by Marchmain
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To: Marchmain

speaking of which..........

what is the pope doing to support his flock of cuban catholics these days???


2 posted on 07/17/2021 9:58:06 AM PDT by thinden ( )
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To: Marchmain
"I think that even many of those who have no particular sympathy for the traditional liturgy or its follows will be repelled by the callous lack of pastoral charity which this change evinces."

Maybe so, but if I was an objective observer I'd be repelled by something even more fundamental.

With all the disorder and diabolical influences facing the Church and the world today, THIS is what moves Francis to issue a formal proclamation?

This is something out of a bad comedy skit. It's functionally the equivalent of firing a loyal, faithful employee for leaving spilled coffee in the office kitchen, while refusing to take any action against the unproductive misfit who walks around the office with his shmekel exposed all day long.

4 posted on 07/17/2021 10:09:02 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Marchmain

The Pope puts his shoes on the same way everyone else does.


5 posted on 07/17/2021 10:09:52 AM PDT by EnglishOnly (eeWFight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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To: Marchmain

This is like a weird Catholic version of Fiddler on the Roof playing out here...


6 posted on 07/17/2021 10:12:39 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Marchmain

Coming soon: Crossdressing trans-priests.


7 posted on 07/17/2021 10:19:05 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: Marchmain

With the onset of the one-world government, this Pope is attempting to position the Church to be the one government-sanctioned church. In order for that to happen, much has to change to suit the whims of the globalists....including this.
He’s diabolical.
How they plan on dealing with Islam is a whole nother story.


9 posted on 07/17/2021 10:23:51 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (Pray for America....)
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To: Marchmain

I am not Catholic, but often fascinated by the discussions on catholicism here. WHY would he want something so steeped in history &, I would imagine, really beautiful to experience gone?????


12 posted on 07/17/2021 11:20:44 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: Marchmain

The very least Francis could be doing is besides raising theological questions on the assertions made in the Islamic codex (which is their code of observance and behavior) known as Sharia, and should be defending the Chinese Catholics.
Ignores this http://www.theusmat.com/islamandfreewill.htm
and also seems to ignore what Our Savior went through to establish the new covenant , Then Plays with suppressors of the faith
The Vatican under the command of Pope Francis is busy rebuking ownership of firearms for personal protection to the cheers of Islamic followers as well as decrying attempting any evangelical conversion of islamists plus suppressing followers of the pre Vatican 2 liturgy form including the latin mass But when it comes to other forms of mono theistic beliefs such as the One World Abu Dhabi Movement. Francis refuses to say one word disclaiming and decrying what practice adherents of the Islam code Sharia not only claim, but truly believe that God has authorized them to any evil means using force or decption used to convert is justified as well as kill those who refuse to submit to their version of Gods will .


13 posted on 07/17/2021 11:36:50 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (AKA Lee J Keslin posting in the hopes comments get passed around )
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To: Marchmain
Papal biographer Austen Ivereigh, meanwhile, praised the pope’s decision on Twitter as, “A historic day. A bold move. A prophetic act.”

Ivereigh is bonkers.

14 posted on 07/17/2021 11:48:56 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: magnum force 2
Ping to interesting comments.

Leni

25 posted on 07/17/2021 1:14:43 PM PDT by MinuteGal (MAGA !!! MAGA !!! MAGA !!!)
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To: Marchmain
“Benedict XVI told bishops at the time of his 2007 Summorum Pontificum that it would be reviewed if it created problems. Francis has consulted the bishops of the world and they say it has. What was meant to foster unity has been used to sow division and opposition to Vatican II,” Ivereigh said.

This is such a contrived BS excuse.... All N.O. Mass going Catholics I know have NO problem with the TLM and enjoy the Liturgy when/where its available...Vat 2 is NOT in opposition woth the TLM.
I could probably then find and ask 10 liberal modernist Bishops if the Real Presence of the Eucharist was a problem for them...and guess what ?

Pontificum II is being written
27 posted on 07/17/2021 1:33:34 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("He that loveth not - knoweth not God; for God is Love.")
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To: Marchmain

TLM bump


32 posted on 07/17/2021 8:45:36 PM PDT by Dajjal (Now the Big Guy wants part of *my* income, too.)
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