Posted on 02/27/2021 1:36:09 PM PST by Cronos
In case you’re wondering how some religions are coping with the outbreak of COVID-19, just look to the Jehovah’s Witnesses to see how absurd reactions can get.
In a recent video featuring Governing Body member Stephen Lett, he absolutely delights in the disease because he sees it as a signal that Armageddon is imminent.
So the events unfolding around us are making clear, [more] than ever, that we’re living in the final part of the Last Days. Undoubtedly, the final part of the final part of the Last Days, shortly before the last day of the Last Days.
It depends on the Baptist group in question. If they hold to the definition of Christianity as we see encapsulated in the Nicene Creed (namely Trinitarian), then peculiar, but not way out there.
The Adventists and Jehovah’s witnesses here that talk about Jesus as the archangel Michael
Or the Modalists who say the Trinity is wrong and they prefer a Modalist God (no distinct son, father or Holy Spirit)
Or the Noahides
Or the folks here who insist that Jesus’ testament was only for Jews...
Yup, lots of different concepts out there...
How’s your health keeping?
“First, you are conflating ‘His commandments’ the two He gave for The Body of Christ Believers, with the ten commandments”
So what is your response to those insisting that one should only worship on Sabbath as
1. Jesus did that
2. they say the 10 c aren’t rescinded.
Rev_20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev_20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
You don't have a clue what this is talking about, do you???
It is addressing Christians...We are going to reign with Jesus for a thousand years...You think we are going to a judgment after reigning with Jesus for a thousand years???
From this article:
https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/25/t/does-god-s-grace-blot-out-the-law-
Judged by the Law
Now, a final question about the subject of the law: How many of the Ten Commandments does one have to break in order to be guilty of sin? James says, “For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty” (James 2:10–12).
Every individual will be judged at last by the mighty moral code of God’s law. To break one is to be guilty of sin. The Bible indicates that the Ten Commandments are like a chain with ten links. When one link is broken, the chain is broken. So it is with the law. Those who stand in the judgment will have to meet the acid test of the Ten Commandments. If a practicing thief should seek entrance into the kingdom, he would be rejected. This is why Paul says thieves will not inherit the heavenly city. Furthermore, the Bible specifically declares that liars, adulterers, idolaters, and covetous men will not be in the kingdom. Why? Because the Ten Commandments forbid those things, and men will be judged finally by that law. Not one person will be admitted into heaven who is willfully violating any one of the Ten Commandments, because breaking one is breaking all.
Someone might object that this is making works the basis of entering the kingdom. No. It is really making love the qualifying factor. Jesus said that the greatest commandment of all is to love God supremely. He also said, “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15). Those who practice any known sin are really confessing that they do not love God with all their heart, soul, and mind. So it is the lack of love that shuts them out—not the act of disobedience that exposes that lack. Only when love is motivating the obedience does it become acceptable to God. Any other work is man’s vain attempt to earn salvation and to deny the efficacy of Christ’s atoning sacrifice.
Iscool, no matter how much you don’t want it to be true, you and I will both be judged by the law.
From the same article:
Ransomed for What?
A dramatic illustration of the law-grace doctrine is seen in the story of the slave auctions in old New Orleans long ago. Two planters were bidding for an old Negro slave who kept shouting his rebellion from the auction block. Finally, one of the planters won the bid and took the slave in his wagon back to the farm. Throughout the journey the defiant black man declared that he would not work for the new owner. When they arrived at the plantation, the planter dropped the shackles from the newly bought slave and said, “You are free to go. You are no longer a slave. I bought you in order to give you your liberty.”
According to the story, the old man fell at the feet of the planter and said, “Master, I’ll serve you forever.”
In like manner, we were all held in the bondage of sin, condemnation, and death. Christ then paid the price to secure our freedom from that hopeless slavery. Lovingly He tells us that the reason He made the sacrifice was to set us free. What should our response be? Every ransomed child of God should fall at His feet and say, “Master, I love you for what you did for me. I’ll serve you the rest of my life.”
Think it through for a moment. Jesus had to die because the law had been broken. Sin demanded death. If the law could have been abrogated, the penalty of sin would have been set aside also. “For where no law is, there is no transgression” (Romans 4:15). So strong was the authority of that unchangeable law that God Himself could not abolish it—not even to save His own Son from death.
Do you understand why there is therefore now no condemnation for those in Christ? You read the answer if you read the 1 John letter verse by verse, because the answer is stated by John at 1 John 3:9. That saying by John conflicts with your carnal misuse of the other verses. Read 1 John 3:9 and let the Restrainer illuminate your soul.
You attempt to post word search passages as if you have found your desired gotchas. Look at the passages of 2 Thess 2. Do you know Who is The Restrainer? Can you guess what He is restraining such that when H e is taken out of the way the antiChrist is revealed? Specifically, what is The Restrainer restraining? How does satan come when he is no longer held back after God removes The Body of Christ Believers?
IF you ever comprehend Who is The Restrainer and why His restraining is vital to the age of The Grace of God in Christ Church Age, then you will start to comprehend what is The Grace of God for The Body of Believers in Christ alone by faith alone. You will have begun to understand what atonement means under the Grace of God, by faith ALONE in Christ ALONE by Grace ALONE with not one smidgeon of your efforts, your fealty to fulfill the ten commandments.
To the Christian, how much could one add to the righteousness IMPUTED to that born again one? Do you really believe The Righteousness of Christ needs anything added by you? Understanding how to answer that question leads to Life in the spirit, by faith alone in Christ alone for Grace alone, never your efforts added.
Not Under the Law
Often we hear this argument in an effort to belittle the law of God: “Well, since we are not under the law but under grace, we do not need to keep the Ten Commandments any longer.” Is this a valid point? The Bible certainly does say that we are not under the law, but does that imply that we are free from the obligation to obey it? The text is found in Romans 6:14, 15. “For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.”
How easily we could prevent confusion if we accepted exactly what the Bible says. Paul gives his own explanation of his statement. After stating that we are not under the law but under grace, he asks, “What then?” This simply means, “How are we to understand this?” Then notice his answer. In anticipation that some will construe his words to mean that you can break the law because you are under grace, he says, “Shall we sin (break the law) because we are not under the law but under grace? God forbid.” In the strongest possible language Paul states that being under grace does not give a license to break the law. Yet this is exactly what millions believe today, and they totally ignore Paul’s specific warning.
If being under grace does not exempt us from keeping the law, then what does Paul mean by saying that Christians are not under the law? He gives that answer in Romans 3:19. “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.” Here Paul equates being under the law with “being guilty before God.” In other words, those who are under the law are guilty of breaking it and are under the condemnation of it. This is why Christians are not under it. They are not breaking it—not guilty and condemned by it. Therefore, they are not under it, but are under the power of grace instead. Later in his argument, Paul points out that the power of grace is greater than the power of sin. This is why he states so emphatically, “For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.” Grace overrules the authority of sin, giving power to obey God’s law. This is the effective reason that we are not under the law’s guilt and condemnation and also why Paul states that we will not continue to sin.
“Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law” (Romans 3:31). Here is the most explicit answer to the entire problem. Paul asks if the law is nullified for us just because we have had faith in Christ’s saving grace. His answer is that the law is established and reinforced in the life of a grace-saved Christian.
AND THAT IS EXACTLY THE MEANING OF THE NEW COVENANT:
10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
WHO IS THE RESTRAINER OF THE ANTICHRIST?
Alex, I’ll take “The early church fathers know the answer vs MHGinTN hasn’t a clue”, for $1000.
http://aloha.net/~mikesch/fathers-on-antichrist.htm
God’s Word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus and not by our own efforts or works (Ephesians 2:8-9). Grace Alone. Faith Alone.
Jesus said......”It is Finished”........”I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live ‘by faith in the Son of God’, who loved me and gave himself for me.
-Galatians 2:20
Galatians 2:20 does NOT say “The life I now live in the flesh I live by faithfulness.”
....We did not free ourselves from the slavery of sin; Christ did. We did not make ourselves slaves of righteousness; Christ did...... The identity of “slave of righteousness” is not something we have to strive to attain, but something ‘we already have’ by faith in Christ.
“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty” (James 2:10–12).
(Saved by Grace, judged by the law).
“Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law” (Romans 3:31). Here is the most explicit answer to the entire problem. Paul asks if the law is nullified for us just because we have had faith in Christ’s saving grace. His answer is that the law is established and reinforced in the life of a grace-saved Christian.
AND THAT IS EXACTLY THE MEANING OF THE NEW COVENANT:
10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
No free pass on sin....
11For there is no respect of persons with God.
12For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
FOR THERE IS NO RESPECT OF PERSONS WITH GOD. We are all going to be judged by God and judgment begins at the house of God.
1 Peter 4:17
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
God’s Word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus and not by our own efforts or works (Ephesians 2:8-9). Grace Alone. Faith Alone.
I agree with that statement 100%
THEN.....
Judged by the law as James clearly states.
“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty” (James 2:10–12).
If you love me, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS. If you say you love me and don’t keep my commandments, YOU ARE A LIAR.
Simple and straight to the point, isn’t it?
Jesus Christ paid the price for us, because we all deserved to die (that’s the condemnation).
The second Adam and Eve sinned, the human race was CONDEMNED to death. God’s law demanded it. We were under the CONDEMNATION OF THE LAW. Blood had to be shed and death was the sentence. That is the law of sin and death. Christ took our place and it was his blood sacrifice that reversed the death penalty on the human race. Now we have Grace and the chance for eternal life.
Romans 8:
1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
“Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law” (Romans 3:31)
GOD FORBID!
Your cult has led you to believe the Restrainer is restraining the Cahtoilic Org. You are learning an error spewed to empower an org known as the seventh day adventists.
So nzme the Restrainer. Then tell us what He is restraining and why. Go one teacher, since you cannot find the false statement you keep posting as if from The Word of God (sved by faith judged by the law?) since you are totally unable to see the abject contradiction in your cultish assertion. Tell us the name of the Restrainer and what He is restraining for the sake of the Body of Christ Believers.
Did you read the relatively short article I linked to on the Restrainer of the Antichrist?
Unbelievers are judged by the Law. Christians are judged by being in Christ, in a state of grace.
If you choose to be judged by the Law rather than being in Christ, then you will be condemned.
But you can't say you weren't warned. If you want to be judged by the Law so bad, I'm sure God will accommodate you.
This is likely to fall on deaf ears, but here it is anyway perchance the Holy Spirit will give you enlightenment and understanding.
Romans 4:3-8 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works: “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin.”
Romans 5:1-2 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
Romans 6:1-4 What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.
Romans 6:10 For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God.
Romans 6:12-18 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.
What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness.
And the end of the matter for the Christian, the one who puts their faith and trust in Christ, not just the person who wears a label because they are not Jewish or Muslim, is this.
Romans 8:1-2 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.
The Restrainer IS the Holy Spirit of GOD. While the Body of Christ is being built He, The Holy Spirit is restraining the 'all signs and lying wonders' which the lawless one will use to deceive ISRAEL and the world.
In every generation satan has a man ready to be empowered by all signs and lying wonders. God's Holy Spirit is restraining that assault so that the fragile Body of Christ Believers collectively are protected from the deception.
When GOD removes the Body of Christ Believers since the Day of Pentecost preaching by Peter, THEN the lawless one will no longer be restrained from using 'all signs and lying wonders' to deceive humanity, the humanity remaining behind after GOD Departs the Body of Believers.
The Great Departure will happen in this way: FIRST The Lord Himself shall come from the Third Heaven Throne Room to the first heaven that has the atmosphere and with a SHOUT He will raise the died in Christ Believers into resurrection bodies fit for eternity with the Lord.
Next the command to transform those who are alive and remain of the Body of Christ Believers, THAT voice of the Archangel will cause the alive remaining to stand apart from the world we now sense, In Resurrection bodies no longer restrained to the world we now sense. Steps one and two are The Apostasia, the standing apart from this world where satan is commanding.
Lastly the Trumpet of 'head them up and move them out' will sound and the resurrection beings who have been made to stand apart from this world will be caught up into the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and return with HIM to The Father's House where He, Jesus, has been preparing a place for us to dwell during the years until He returns to the Mount of Olives touchdown He did not do when He came in the Air to gather us unto Himself.
If you doubt there is an other reality we cannot now sense, to which The Lord's command will stand us apart to, read the fifth chapter of Daniel again and notice the being whose hand wrote upon the wall, that being was standing apart from the reality of palace party central.
Unbelievers are judged by the Law. Christians are judged by being in Christ, in a state of grace.
The bible clearly says you are wrong. We are all judged by the law.
Romans 2:11-13
For God does not show favoritism. 12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but it is the doers of the law who will be declared righteous.…
What law? The Royal law, the law of liberty.
James 2:
8If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
James 1:
22But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
(Maybe the Holy Spirit can do something for you?)
I’ll ask again. Did you read the short article on the Restrainer of the Antichrist that I linked to?
No, I have no use for anything a seventh day adventist wishes to assert since it is originating with a cult and cults are the playthings of the satan.
Therefore, they are not under it, but are under the power of grace instead. Later in his argument, Paul points out that the power of grace is greater than the power of sin. This is why he states so emphatically, “For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.” Grace overrules the authority of sin, giving power to obey God’s law. This is the effective reason that we are not under the law’s guilt and condemnation and also why Paul states that we will not continue to sin.
Well that's kind of weird...You are arguing against yourself...
Here, you say we are not under the law and it's condemnation yet you claim our entrance into heaven is determined by being judged by the law...I really don't know what point you're trying to make...
The one thing you are proving tho is that in Romans 2 the people being preached to were justified by the law but in Romans 3 the entire scenario changed...Doctrine changed...The people being preached to were NO LONGER justified by the law but by grace...
That's where Catholics and you guys get messed up...The bible clearly tells us that those who Jesus preached to, the Jews, were still under the law as was taught by their ancestors...But he was also telling them that the blood sacrifices of the past to atone for their sins was insufficient...
And this is what Paul the apostle knew while he was persecuting believers during the events taking place in the Gospels, the book of James, Hebrews, etc...
All this while, a transition is taking place...The gospel was first preached to Jews only...The Samaritans (Gentiles) were not allowed...A little later the Samaritans were allowed to be included to a degree...
The Jews reject Jesus and the material kingdom he was ready to set up for them...
God gets a little ticked off and blinds the minds of the unbelieving Jews so they won't understand any of the resurrection or what follows...
Pentecost happens...
The Holy Spirit takes over as Jesus promised...
Paul has his encounter with Jesus and this is where our modern church starts (sorry Catholics)...
Jesus changed his format again and revealed to Paul what was changing, hence Romans 3 and the Gentile church...
Jesus created the Gentile church to make the Jews jealous...They're still jealous...
Peter gets the vision that all things are clean and all are accepted into the church...
The transition from the gospels was from works (for atonement) without faith (no one needed faith, they had God right there preaching to them) to works and faith after Jesus was Crucified and finally to faith without works when it was ultimately revealed to everyone that Jesus became our sacrifice and was IN us to guide us so no works from then on were required...
I of course skipped over a LOT of things but just giving a simple outline...And if you insist on being under the law and being judged by the law, Paul speaks to that in dept in the book of Galatians...
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