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To: Roman_War_Criminal
I would recommend formulating contingency plans in case your idea of the "Rapture" turns out to be complete fiction.

When the communists took over in China, nobody raptured the Chinese Christians away from that tribulation. Ditto, only worse, for North Korea.

After this nation has killed 60 million of God's innocent babies, we don't have the right to expect anything better.

3 posted on 12/30/2020 3:19:57 PM PST by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Campion

It’s not fiction, but you seem to have made up your mind without scouring The Scriptures for details.

We’re not promised a life of roses in this life.


4 posted on 12/30/2020 3:23:51 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Campion
I would recommend formulating contingency plans in case your idea of the "Rapture" turns out to be complete fiction.

The Rapture is not fiction but a "secret" one or a pre-trib one might very well be.

6 posted on 12/30/2020 3:27:15 PM PST by BipolarBob (Money can't buy you happiness but it can buy you ammo. That's pretty much the same thing.)
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To: Campion

Thanks for your concern, but don’t worry about it.


7 posted on 12/30/2020 3:41:20 PM PST by zek157
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To: Campion; Roman_War_Criminal; All

“After this nation has killed 60 million of God’s innocent babies, we don’t have the right to expect anything better.”

Noah was saved in the Ark before the Lord flooded Earth.

Lot was saved out of Sodom before God rained fire down on the city.

Israel was protected in Goshen while all the plagues fell upon Egypt; Goshen even had light while darkness was upon the face of Egypt.

Elijah was given sanctuary in the brooks of Kidron and fed of Ravens while Jezebel raged about trying to find him.

Matthew 24-25 mentions the latter days and Jesus mentioning Noah again saying that the days of Noah were wicked, that people were buying and selling marrying and being given unto marriage until he was taken into the ark and the rains fell and the Earth was destroyed. So would it all be again like those days of Noah in the day of the coming of the Son of man, when the righteous would be removed and the nations mourning to see it. One woman with another grinding at the mill and one would be taken and the other left. And then the judgment of God falls.

There is a coming event in which those alive in Christ who are upon the Earth will suddenly be changed in a twinkling of an eye...that the dead in Christ will rise first and then all the rest who are alive in Christ would follow. I make no argument as to the timing, I just remind you that the Bible, yes even the Catholic Bible speaks of that singular event. Forget faulty church doctrine, read your own Catholic Bible!!! Even the Latin Vulgate uses the term Rapiemur which means “we who are caught up”. The latin root is Raptus which means “a carrying off”. We get our word “rapture” from those root words and that is where the doctrine of the rapture came from; that is from the latin terms for the Rapture in the Catholic Latin Vulgate bible!!! In modern usage the term rapture is used to describe a sense of being over come by joy and elation, to have a sense of being lifted off and away from Earthly miseries, even if only for a few moments. One can feel enraptured in the presence of a new loved one or in the joys of a beautiful spring day. That sense of being “carried away” still lingers even in our modern usage.

I repeat I’m not arguing over the timing of when such an event will occur; I’m arguing that at some point prior to or in the midst of the absolute deluge of judgment that will fall upon the Earth, Christ will take his righteous up. Before that happens many Christian souls may indeed become martyrs as Revelation says...yet we may take heart for as Christ says...even now...”Be of good cheer, for I have already overcome the world!”


9 posted on 12/30/2020 4:05:14 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: Campion

I agree. The rapture will happen but it is when Christ returns and the end of world is here. The tribulation is Satan’s wrath and we all are here (unless dead) and the end of the world, when Christ returns is God’s wrath.


12 posted on 12/30/2020 4:31:31 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: Campion

But because of the Grace of God in Christ the redeemed are promised to be removed BEFORE God begins to pour out His wrat. In Revelation 5 we see the redeemed are in Heaven, wearing the Bema Seat crown rewards, witnessing the opening of the seven sealed scroll which ushers in the first rider, the one on the white horse, carrying a bow but no arrows, the man of lawlessness. What you might want to research is ‘how does one become a member of The Redeemed. [ HINT: it is not by works or rituals or sacramental fealty but by faith alone in Christ alone. ] If you want to be around to be introduced to the AntiChrist, just keep trusting in your fealty to an org rather than the Lord Crist ONLY.


13 posted on 12/30/2020 4:33:00 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Campion

There’s a difference between tribulation and trouble we face in isolated areas at different times around the world, and the Great Tribulation that is referred to in Bible prophecy.

The Great Tribulation that God sends on the world is for the unbelieving world, not His church.

Believers are not destined for judgment.

Yes, this country has the blood of many innocents on its hands and judgment must come for that, but a god who judges the innocent who did not participate in that slaughter and who opposed it, is an unjust god.

However, the advice for forming contingency plans is still warranted as we do not know God’s timetable nor how bad things will get before He removes His Bride before He rains down judgment on an unjust and unbelieving world.


23 posted on 12/30/2020 6:29:37 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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