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To: SkyDancer
NO, that is not the Scripture I refer to. this is the one.

And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.
Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.
1 Timothy 2:12-15


Now, women can teach, but not men. As I stated in my commentary though, when men abdicate their responsibility women often times must step up. However, if they are teaching men on a Missionary, because no males are there to do so, once a qualified male teacher comes, she must step aside.

Women can teach other women, and children. However, she should also not be teaching older boys. They should have a male teacher. Thus the reason men are always Teen youth leaders in church.

Do not take offense, I just follow the Scriptures.
9 posted on 12/29/2020 11:46:14 AM PST by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Okay - but Paul was referring to what was happening in that particular church. So I guess women can’t teach in seminary and if they hear some guy saying something that is wrong concerning scripture we are to keep silent.


11 posted on 12/29/2020 12:03:02 PM PST by SkyDancer
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To: OneVike; SkyDancer

“NO, that is not the Scripture I refer to. this is the one... ‘And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence’ —1 Timothy 2:12-15”

The article that SkyDancer posted a link to is a good one. However, I would add a VERY important clarification on the above passage.

The Bible does NOT gives a general command by which women are supposed to submit to men. That is FALSE and a lie from Hell.

We ALL must submit to authority. Children to parents. Citizens to government. Church members to church leaders. Etc. But only when directed to do what is right, never to do evil.

But here is the important clarification: the Greek words for man and woman also are the same words for husband and wife. In English we have different words. So, translators must use context to determine which is correct for a specific passage.

Clearly Paul and others admonish WIVES to submit to their own (respective) HUSBANDS’ leadership. It would be the height of foolishness to advocate for all women to submit to all men. Nor are wives commanded by scripture to submit to another woman’s husband, but to their own.

Here are a couple of links that support the proper definitions of the original words used in the scriptures:

https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Lexicon.show/ID/G435/aner.htm

https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Lexicon.show/ID/G1135/gune.htm

Would you counsel your wife, mother, daughter, or sister to obey any man who tells them to do something? What if a strange man tells one of them, “Come get in my car?” Should she OBEY because she is a woman and the person ordering her is a man? This is obviously NOT the case.


15 posted on 12/29/2020 1:57:56 PM PST by unlearner (Be ready for war.)
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