Protestants put these leaders’ positions on a pedestal more than Catholics do the pope’s.
WHo cares what Piper thinks.
Biden wants to kill babies. But, Trump is “boastful”. Gosh! How can a good Christian choose between such evils?
Piper is a fool.
Piper has become blinded by mammon in his own life!
Piper Schmiper. Who GAS? This election is about life and death. Freedom vs Tyranny,.
Christ knew better than anyone else that the world needs tough shepherds to fend off the wolves that seek to scatter and devour His sheep.
Do we not believe in redemption? There was a time President Trump was “pro-choice”... he changed his mind dramatically due to a personal experience. He’s now the most pro-life president in modern times. I’m not sure you can look at his past and call it a perfect Christian walk (who survives that measure?!), however, he now describes himself in Christian terms.
So many Christians want to tear him down for who he WAS... can we not see who he IS?
If Piper or anyone else out there is looking for a saint to lead this nation then they’re on a fool’s errand. The choice between Trump and Biden is stark. Only a person with a complete lack of discernment would vote for Biden.
an excellent read...
The great American writer wrote a profound piece, I believe in the 1920s, to distinguish between those who embrace a perfect dichotomy between good and evil, and those who are reasonable.
The former, no matter their beliefs, are fanatics, and their mental universe is both very small and brittle. If and when this brittle shell breaks, the effects can by unfortunate.
He cited a real news story, of a very rigid preacher who strove to be perfectly upright and moral his whole life, but was secretly tormented by his hidden demons and lusts, only holding them back by trying to lead an utterly sinless life.
But one day neither he nor his attractive choir leader, could control themselves and had a moment of passion.
Knowing beyond any doubt that they had unforgivably sinned and were thus damned to Hell eternal, they both lost all of their inhibitions and went on a multi-state crime spree before meeting a bad end at the hands of the police.
Mencken then compared them to a hypothetical ordinary man, a used car salesman and a Shriner, who is the loving husband and provider for a wife and two kids. For his holiday, he goes to a Shriner’s convention, he drinks too much and ends the night in the arms of a prostitute.
But the next day, sporting his punishment of a hangover, he drives home to again be a good husband and father, and feels no remorse going to church the next Sunday.
(In any event, there are countless examples of fanatics, from communists and Nazis, to Jimmy Swaggart, who see the world perfectly divided in two between their imagined good and evil.)
I still ask the same questions:
1. Would John Piper vote for Moses, who murdered the Egyptian?
2.Would John Piper vote for King David who was a bigamist, adulterer, and murderer?
3.Would John Piper vote for King Solomon who worshiped idols and sort of invented the concept of womanizer?
4. Would John Piper vote for Ezekiel who preached naked?
5. Would John Piper vote for St. Paul who was an accomplice in the murder of Stephen and persecuted the church?
6. Would John Piper vote for St. Peter who denied Christ, and appeared to be sort of a braggart?
Every man I’ve listed above wrote part of the Bible.
God uses flawed, sometimes terribly flawed men.
“The claim that the horrible sin of pride leads people to other sins, including defending abortion...”
Piper must be an idiot.
Let’s see: only two viable choices, one candidate is opposed to abortion (Trump), and the other candidate exalts abortion (Biden). So, therefore, if you vote for the candidate who opposes abortion, you may in truth be voting for abortion.
False teachers, in order to be effective, typically package a particle of evil inside a bundle of goodness:
“A ‘boat’load of sugar and a shovel of cyanide.”
It’s Piper’s turn to shovel in some cyanide.
Last Saturday I heard a radio preacher say something that resonated heavily with me. Now, I cannot remember word for word, sorry. In the Bible, God made man to be a good steward of earth. That does not mean just nature, and to each other a good neighbor, BUT to be a good government steward which means voting!!! We must vote, we must watch what is being done by boards (such as education) to make sure they are doing the work of Jesus, not merely man.
So this is a great support article. Thank you for posting!
Thanks for this post. This is how civilized people should discuss their differences.
It was way too long-winded for a subjective opinion - but if his conclusion was the following, then I agree 100%:
President Trump’s so-called boastfulness is not only NOT a sin, but it is entirely necessary in the context of a hostile and criminally dishonest media monopoly dead-set on destroying him.
If he doesn’t toot his own horn, nobody will - and it needs to be tooted.
Anyone who buys into the Left’s narrative that President Trump’s character flaws make him unfit to lead, is a moron. Sure he is flawed, but so is everyone - with the exception of the unborn - whom he defends.
I am getting so sick of people who will not let go of Trump’s past.
Would they want to be forever judged based on the decisions they made in the past?
Do they not allow for the fact that people can and do change? Especially in light of the fact that a profession of faith was made?
Who becomes spiritually mature overnight?
It’s God who decides what is the most important thing in a person’s life to work on, and it’s not always what we would think or want.
On second thought, I have two words which illustrate the folly of personal virtue, however one might define it, as qualification for high office:
Jimmy Carter.
Here's two more: Winston Churchill.
Big personalities have big flaws.