Posted on 06/22/2020 7:30:25 PM PDT by JAG 5000
“I am an atheist, but as far as blowing up the world in a nuclear war goes, I tell them not to worry.”___Fred Hoyle
“Life cannot have had a random beginning ... The trouble is that there are about 2000 enzymes, and the chance of obtaining them all in a random trial is only one part in 10^40,000, an outrageously small probability that could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup.”___Fred Hoyle
“There is a coherent plan to the universe, though I don't know what it's a plan for.”__Fred hoyle
“The notion that not only the biopolymer but the operating program of a living cell could be arrived at by chance in a primordial organic soup here on the Earth is evidently nonsense of a high order.”__Fred Hoyle
“Once we see, however, that the probability of life originating at random is so utterly miniscule as to make it absurd, it becomes sensible to think that the favorable properties of physics on which life depends are in every respect deliberate ... . It is therefore almost inevitable that our own measure of intelligence must reflect ... higher intelligences ... even to the limit of God ... such a theory is so obvious that one wonders why it is not widely accepted as being self-evident. The reasons are psychological rather than scientific.”___ Fred Hoyle
“A junkyard contains all the bits and pieces of a Boeing 747, dismembered and in disarray. A whirlwind happens to blow through the yard. What is the chance that after its passage a fully assembled 747, ready to fly, will be found standing there? So small as to be negligible, even if a tornado were to blow through enough junkyards to fill the whole Universe.”___Fred Hoyle
“It isn't the Universe that's following our logic, it's we that are constructed in accordance with the logic of the Universe. And that gives what I might call a definition of intelligent life: something that reflects the basic structure of the Universe.”___Fred Hoyle
Source: https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/199992.Fred_Hoyle __________________
Who was Fred Hoyle? "Sir Fred Hoyle (24 June 1915 – 20 August 2001)[1] was an English astronomer who formulated the theory of stellar nucleosynthesis . . .He spent most of his working life at the Institute of Astronomy at Cambridge and served as its director for six years." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hoyle
"Would you not say to yourself, "Some super-calculating intellect must have designed the properties of the carbon atom, otherwise the chance of my finding such an atom through the blind forces of nature would be utterly minuscule. A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a super-intellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question." — Fred Hoyle[19]
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hoyle#Origin_of_nucleosynthesis
“I am an atheist, but as far as blowing up the world in a nuclear war goes, I tell them not to worry.”___Fred Hoyle https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/199992.Fred_Hoyle
“...it’s virtually impossible for the existence of even the most minor of particles to have come into existence out of nowhere or out of nothing.”
Like the scientist that bets GOD $100 that he can create life. So God takes the bet.
God scoops up a handful of dirt.
The scientist scoops up a handful of dirt.
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God looks over: “Hey - get your OWN dirt!”
not so, its a theory.. a terrible theory, but there is no other current explanation for the forces at work.
it is the absolute height of human arrogance and hubris to look at the parts of DNA that we dont understand and call it ‘junk’ and assume it serves no purpose
and there is a better explanation out there, but until someone comes up with it, we are stuck with it. i think of ‘dark matter/dark energy’ as a placeholder because there *is* some force out there interacting, we just dont know what it is and how to categorize it
So where did these aliens come from? How did their life form? They can believe in aliens but not God, brilliant.
I don’t think it is wide known that Hoyle and Fr. Lemaitre became personal friends, even sharing vacation time:
“Postscript: How did Hoyle and Lemaître relate at a personal
level?
All the evidence would indicate that Hoyle and Lemaître got on very well
at the personal level despite the fundamental disagreements over cosmology, and indeed over religion – and we have noted Hoyle’s view of priests! I
will end with a nice anecdote given by John Farrell concerning a two week
drive that Hoyle, his wife Barbara, and Lemaître did together through
Italy and the Alps in 1957. They were dining one night, which happened to
be a Friday. Hoyle ordered a steak and Lemaître fish. When the food came,
Hoyle’s steak was of moderate size, whereas Lemaître’s fish was enormous.
Hoyle commented, ‘Now at last, Georges, I see why you are a Catholic!’, at
which Lemaître became ‘red-faced and peevish’. Hoyle was puzzled, thinking he had committed some terrible ‘religio-diplomatic indiscretion’ as he
put it. That was until he remembered that Lemaître hated fish!”
Adorno, that was an excellent “simple essay” as you called it. I found it very interesting and helpful. I plan to share your ideas with others. I will give you credit. You write well and express yourself clearly.
In another vein, I have discovered that many Atheists on the Internet sometimes throw tantrums and “hissy fits” of anger when they are presented with the truth of Intelligent Design. No matter. Intelligent Design is here to stay. I recently saw a study projecting there would be 5.7 billion Theists in the world by 2050 — so believers in Intelligent Design are growing in numbers. This is good news. Secularism has no answers for the spiritual needs of humanity. Long live Christendom and God Bless America too.
JAG 5000
Catnipman, that was a good one. I enjoyed
reading that. I grinned big time at your
“laptop soup” phrase. Cool.
We human beings never crawled out of the
Primordial Slime Soup — if that is what
the Evolutionists are claiming these days?
I lose track of their explanations and
their theories which seem to be adjusted
and modified as needed to harmonize with
their religion of Secular Humanism.
Super great post, Catnipman.
Super great analogy.
JAG 5000
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Shark24,
An interesting story about
Hoyle and Lemaître/fish & steak.
Thank you.
“Thank you. Never heard of these.:__Fungi
Y’welcome.
The atheists savage Fred Hoyle.
They don’t like him.
Wonder why? LOL
Recommend you read “The Day Without Yesterday” which is an excellent review of his life and work. Amazing man.
“Dwarwin did not understand that the simple cell is a very complicated double helix molecule”
indeed ... at that time, the cell was considered to contain a kind of pudding with some raisin-like bodies floating around in it ...
” i think of ‘dark matter/dark energy’ as a placeholder because there *is* some force out there interacting, we just dont know what it is and how to categorize it”
seems to me pretty much like a warmed-over version of the old theory that “ether” had to exit throughout the universe for light-waves to propagate through ...
“So where did these aliens come from? How did their life form? They can believe in aliens but not God, brilliant.”
it’s certainly true that Intelligent Design begs the question of who designed our designers, but that’s a different question than whether life on earth resulted from Intelligent Design ...
however, anyone who has extensively studied molecular biology and computer science and understands the principals and history of building complex software and/or computing systems (like myself) can see that those exact same principles were used to build, and yes, EVOLVE earth’s biologic systems (including the lengthy terraforming stages).
the difference though with Darwinian evolution is that such evolution is a set of meaningless random events occurring in a temporary pocket of negative entropy, while designs in computing hardware and software and earth biology are anything but random, and that both of those designs were designs that were DIRECTED by intelligence ... it’s also clear in both cases that the designers did not know how to make the end products when they first started, but instead started with simple designs and learned as they went along, making better and more complex designs at each stage, hence the notion of directed evolution in both cases ...
even Biblical genesis of life on earth is completely consistent with the principle of simple creations preceding more complex creations ...
Hah, I have 3 or four of his sci-fi books, some he wrote with his son. I didn’t realize he was more famous for actual science stuff.
Freegards
possibly. Aether theories never went away (see the ‘Higgs Field’).
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