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[Catholic Caucus] 8 Ways to Start Rolling Back Church Coronavirus Restrictions Now
National Catholic Register ^ | April 17, 2020 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/18/2020 3:48:50 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] 8 Ways to Start Rolling Back Church Coronavirus Restrictions Now

Please, my brothers and superiors — many of the faithful have written to me and told me they feel abandoned by the Church. It may be true that we were caught off guard by the sudden storm and felt required to take strong actions. But now there is time for pastoral reflection. It is time to hear the pleas of God’s good people. These pleas come from the ranks of the ordinary faithful and also from widely respected lay leaders.

It is time for a creative restoration of the sacraments, even if on a limited basis at first. It is time to implement a pastoral plan that reflects that “field hospital” once mentioned by the Pope. Field hospitals can’t always follow the exacting norms of a state-of-the-art trauma center, and so a few temporary liberties regarding liturgical practices may be required. But in the end, people need Jesus. Respectful of legitimate precautions, let’s creatively and ingeniously work to reunite the faithful with the Mass and the regular reception of Holy Communion and Confession.

(Excerpt) Read more at m.ncregister.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: dictatorbishops; dictatorpastors; francischism
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1. Is it really necessary to lock the church doors? While there may be local ordinances some bishops are dealing with (e.g., “stay at home” orders), it still seems that these severer measures by some bishops stand in contrast to the fact the just about everywhere food stores, liquor stores, drug stores — even bike shops, dry cleaners and garden centers — are open. If obtaining food and liquor, fixing your bike and washing your clothes are seen as essential, why should a house of prayer be locked? Is it not important to pray and make visits to the Blessed Sacrament?
1 posted on 04/18/2020 3:48:50 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; markomalley; ...

Ping


2 posted on 04/18/2020 3:49:30 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Summer time....No reason it can’t be outside at a Public Park...6 ft spacing and a mike for the speaker....Rally for God!!


3 posted on 04/18/2020 3:50:42 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ebb tide

Many, many churches are streaming daily and Sunday Mass!


4 posted on 04/18/2020 3:53:17 PM PDT by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Double Ping. Would love your thoughts.


5 posted on 04/18/2020 3:56:29 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: ebb tide

Yeah it’s like...what’s the point of even having a church. It’s supposed to be a refuge *precisely* in times of crisis! Duh!


6 posted on 04/18/2020 3:57:07 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: notaliberal

This isn’t only referring to mass but locking churches indefinitely period. Even for prayer with only a handful of people in a building. Ridiculous!


7 posted on 04/18/2020 3:57:59 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: ebb tide

Abandoned was like 2-3 weeks ago..... Were into the ticked off phase....
Why are the priests IN THEIR Church.... Playing nanny patrol?
Instead of locking the doors? It’s a disgrace..... Don’t celebrate Mass if you can’t find the courage...... But let the parishioners in.......
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What a disgrace....


8 posted on 04/18/2020 4:01:17 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("We are Easter people...")
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To: ebb tide

Let’s keep a ban on the stupid “Sign of Peace” handshake, a carryover from The folk music, Second Vatican mess.


9 posted on 04/18/2020 4:05:15 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: notaliberal
Now, Francis seems to have changed his position because the faithful are unhappy, and the coronavirus has blacked out the hierarchy, including Francis.

Accordingly, he is dumping the responsibility for the live-streamed "gnostic Church" on the [stupid] bishops who obeyed him.

Again: Francis Commands And Then Blames Those Obeying Him

10 posted on 04/18/2020 4:06:30 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Bishops have done this voluntarily under the Biblical admonition that we respect civil authority. If any wanted to file a First Amendment case the government would surely lose.


11 posted on 04/18/2020 4:11:28 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: oldbill

Actually, it’s a little older than that:
(and makes me appreciate that it is just a handshake now)

...in a sermon attributed to St. Augustine, but probably written by St. Csarius of Arles (P.L. XXXVIII, 1101): “After this [the Lord’s prayer], Pax vobiscum is said, and the faithful salute each other with the kiss which is the sign of peace.”

From catholic.com encyclopedia under ‘kiss of peace’

Love,
O2


12 posted on 04/18/2020 4:19:30 PM PDT by omegatoo (You know you'll get your money's worth...become a monthly donor!)
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To: oldbill

I, for one, will not miss the Grope of Peace.

Y’all can stop holding hands and swaying during the Lord’s Prayer, too.


13 posted on 04/18/2020 4:19:58 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Bishops have done this voluntarily under the Biblical admonition that we respect civil authority.

Does this admonition also apply to the good underground bishops, priests and lay faithful in Red China?

14 posted on 04/18/2020 4:21:10 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
There aren't many lawsuits.

Newsroom - Alliance Defending Freedom

i think all of the suits will be mooted by the time the courts get around to them.

15 posted on 04/18/2020 4:24:03 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ebb tide

Jesus didn’t keep socially distant from lepers and I bet leprosy is much worse and more contagious than COVID


16 posted on 04/18/2020 4:28:37 PM PDT by webheart (L)
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To: ebb tide

Way #1: tell Comrade Governor he does not have the power to overturn the 1st Amendment.


17 posted on 04/18/2020 4:30:37 PM PDT by libertylover (Socialism will always look good to those who think they can get something for nothing.)
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To: oldbill
>> the stupid “Sign of Peace” handshake, a carryover from The folk music, Second Vatican mess. <<

Gee, that's funny, I see it mentioned in the bible repeatedly (Matthew 5:23–5:24, Romans 16:16, 1 Peter 5:14, 2 Corinthians 13:12, etc.) AND the early church fathers like St. Augustine and St. John Chrysostom said the sign of peace was exchanged among the faithful DURING the liturgy.

Obviously, they all must have been time-travelers who attended Vatican II in the 1960s.

18 posted on 04/18/2020 4:31:47 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact)
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I too object to the sign of peace where it occurs during the Mass. It drives me crazy when so many turn their backs on our Lord, present in front of them on the altar, to shake hands with those behind them!

At a Mass I attended in London a few years ago, they offered the sign of peace just before the final blessing.

IMHO, that is where it belongs.

19 posted on 04/18/2020 4:38:20 PM PDT by LisaFab
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To: LisaFab; omegatoo
Objecting to WHEN the Sign of Peace occurs during the Mass is not the same as objecting to the Sign of Peace ITSELF and claiming it was a creation of Vatican II. That is what the original post claimed ("the stupid “Sign of Peace” handshake, a carryover from the Second Vatican mess" and my response addressed that.
20 posted on 04/18/2020 4:51:05 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact)
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