Posted on 02/13/2020 2:08:36 PM PST by Red Badger
:::Did Joseph Smith make a FALSE prophecy or not here?:::
The after life is part of this world. You know, the people Jesus preached to between His death and before He returned to Our Father in Heaven.
Correct.
Still glad about Kayne West.
My old Pastor when i was kid used to say “God said he uses the foolish to confound the wise. I suspect He also has a sense of humor about it.”
:::The poster goes from thread to thread baiting non Mormons, presumably the posters method for proselytizing for Moronism :::
I said nothing about my church, you did that.
Your negative remarks do more good thin I can do. Except for those who already think you are right, you cause people to want to know more.
Thank you
And by the way, I am trying to learn about what people of other religions believe.
Thank you for your comic book fiction about the Lord talking with His Prophet.
:::always the same image, the same instruction.:::
We would call that personal revelation. Heavenly Father gives each of us guidance from time to time. Guidance for ourselves, not for the public.
Your guidance was to lell this man what you were doing, not what he was to do.
I am interested to know what happened when you spoke with him.
Back at work again, so I don’t get to answer as I would like. Never heard the scripture in Timothy twisted out of context so much as to discuss prophecy. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with prophets or their behavior. Has to do with the veracity of scripture itself, and that it can be trusted as an instruction manual for this life. I have myself always warned people to be skeptical of modern day prophets , and am myself. Considering false prophets were to be stoned to death. However, Jesus healed the sick, cast out spirits, and gave us some prophecy for the future himself. And before he ascended said that we believers would do the same works, even more. I tend to trust what he said. I used to listen to Mac Arthur on the radio every day until I nearly wrecked the car when he spouted some things that were not biblical, period. And they weren’t expressed as opinions or theory. But he will be accountable, and not to me.
Do you know how many people would argue the point that you are lost because you quote from the ESV version? Or NIV, or NKJV, or a host of others? Since 20 or more percent of the Bible (scripture) is dedicated to prophecy, Timothy’s verses only verify that prophesy and prophets have a high likelihood of being very alive and well. One can read and meditate on it a thousand times and not come away with the thought that it slams the door shut on prophecy. Or healing, or baptism (water or Spirit), or miracles, etc. It clearly says equipped for EVERY good work. We at least have common ground in the fact that there are false prophecies flying around like birds. But to say a modern prophecy would have to be added to the canon because it was God breathed is preposterous. And I didn’t even have to use the logic you think I’m lacking to figure that one out. Your logic of the scripture would make Jesus wrong for healing on the Sabbath. Never mind, that already happened with someone else that used scripture to bend it for their own use.
Why the warning about False Prophets if there are no more prophets?
Got to have a real one, to have a false.
So why do you never give a full answer when asked about your Mormonism? Are you ashamed of the Lorenzo Snow couplet? Do you think it will turn people away from your cult if you tell them truthfully that your religion teaches Jesus and satan are brothers? And if someone asks you to explain the notion of Kolob and spirit wives, why is it you would not be fully truthful? Had any burnings in the bosom lately?
::: Are you ashamed of the Lorenzo Snow couplet? :::
It does not matter how often your misleading guestions are answered they are reasked by you and your’s.
Why do you keep reasking answered questions?
Deception by you id not an answrr. Are you familiar with Lorenzo’s blasphemy?
Great picture
:::So why do you never give a full answer when asked about your Mormonism? :::
Just a reminder to show your aim is to spread your “knowledge” about your dislikes without compleat knowlage.
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To: patriotfury
:::Mormon followers of Lucifer’s brother Jesus?:::
With your limited understanding of our life before birth I can understand your thinking that a bad thing. Heavenly Father has told us a little more about that time.
You, me, all of us were spirits living with Father before this life. Yes, that included both Jesus and Lucifer as two of our brothers.
Jesus, the first born of the spirits, followed God’s plan. Lucifer did not like Heavenly Father’s plan and tryed to convince us to do it his way. Lucifer was cast out and some of our brothers and sisters followed him.
Lucifer and his followers are your brothers and sisters who, because of their actions are denied this life. Their progression was stoped, like a dam across a stream.
74 posted on 2/11/2020, 6:25:34 PM by fproy2222
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Where do you want your progression stoped?
Even you can grow enough to bear the responsibly needed to be like Father.
If Trump wins the popular vote in the next election, the second topic out of his mouth, after thanks, should be a DEMAND that ALL the NatPopularVote states require their electoral votes be cast for him. The following four years should be spent crowing about the landslide electoral vote count - first republican since Reagan to carry California, New York, Illinois, Maryland, and Massachusetts (even as they refuse to comply).
Acts 2:17
If you survive, do not accerpt the mark of the beast, even if an a gel of light commands it. May The God have mercy on your deluded self.
Got to have a real one, to have a false.”
No, the real ones were in the past. The warning in Deuteronomy was contemporaneous with the times of the prophets, though the principles are universal (if anyone claims to speak for God, and it doesn’t come to pass or is incorrect, even if it happens only once, he is not a prophet). A false prophet can arise at any time, and because people tend to so easily want to follow them, we are warned about them (multiple times).
The situation today with charismatics and the “new apostolic movement”, where people are running around willy-nilly claiming for be prophets and apostles, is completely out of control and is uniformly unbiblical. From Bethel (where Bill Johnson is held up as an “apostle” and “prophet”), to the Toronto Vineyard and its demonic “Toronto Blessing”, to IHOP/Mike Bickel, and on, and on, and on, false prophets and apostles are everywhere these days.
And what is happening is that a carnal desire for both power (signs and wonders, miracles) and direct personal revelation is leading many into outright deception. If, as these people claim, they are constantly getting personal messages directly from God, then who needs the Bible? See the problem here? If Satan were going to devise a perfect deception to pull people away from the scriptures and get them focused on themselves instead, he couldn’t do better than what is happening right now.
At Bethel, they are neck deep in preaching blatant paganism, they constantly seek new and more spectacular experiences (such as alleged “gold dust” that “miraculously” fell from the ceiling - actually found to be plastic glitter that was dumped onto the ventilation system), and they virtually worship Bill Johnson as an “apostle.” At the Toronto Vineyard, what they claimed was a “move of the Holy Spirit”, and described as God “doing a new thing” (run if you ever hear that phrase), involved various self-proclaimed prophets spouting nonsense and parishioners exhibiting uncontrollable fits of laughter “holy laughter”) and rolling around on the floor making animal noises. There is ZERO Biblical basis for any of this, but it mirrors perfectly the behavior of those who are demon oppressed or even possessed. Look up the Kundalini spirit and Kriyas, and you will see the direct connection to paganism. And as for IHOP and Mike Bickel, they also focus intently on constantly chasing new experiences and feelings, and have many self-appointed prophets and apostles who strangely never seem to get anything right. Yet that doesn’t deter them, they just brush it off by saying that they “need more practice.”
And these examples are only the tip of the iceberg. This stuff has become rampant in recent years and it is causing widespread disillusionment when the “prophecies” don’t come true and when a miracle that is arrogantly proclaimed (rather than humbly prayed for) fails to materialize. It’s all self-focused, constantly seeking spiritual “power” and new emotional highs, rather than doing what we are told to do in scripture, namely to preach the gospel, making disciples of all men, and to act justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with our God.
No apology for your saying untruths about me?
They've turned these upside down:
Ephesians 4:10-12
10 He who descended is the very one who ascended above all the heavens, in order to fill all things. 11 And it was He who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, 12 to equip the saints for works of ministry, to build up the body of Christ,…
The trick is to ALWAYS be right in what you are predicting.
One can ALWAYS go back into the past and find SOMEONE who got it right; once - or twice.
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