Posted on 01/31/2020 4:15:46 AM PST by JosephJames
Sorry bro....not giving anymore of your links any hits.
There, there. Read it again, man.
No need to read it again. It’s crystal clear. Only Jesus is the gate/door. No one else.
Mom MD: “Satan is more that happy to start with truth and derail the train into error.”
Do you really, really want me to go there? :)
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Mom MD: “He doesn’t mind acknowledging Christ if he can divert the attention to Mary.”
And yet Mary always leads you to Christ. Always. Do you really think, meditating on the Life of Christ, honoring His mother and asking her for favors from God is going to somehow offend Him?
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Mom MD: “He gets the added benefit if making you feel holy and superior to the rest of us for your idolatry.”
Do you worship your interpretation of the Bible? Does it make you feel holy and superior to the rest of us?
I said... “That does not preclude Mary as the path to the Gate.”
“THE PATH”... “ the path TO the Gate.”
The Gate is Christ, no one said or intimated otherwise. You are boxing shadows.
Confirmation bias much?
praying to Mary and putting her in between the believer and Christ does offend Him. We are told there is but one mediator between God and man and that is Christ the Lord. Rationalize your treatment of Mary anyway you want but it is unbiblical idolatry.
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And what I mean by joy and satisfaction here is clear in the Gospel and the promises of God as revealed in His Word. His Word itself is deeply and uniquely and supremely enjoyable and satisfying and inspiring to believers, while hardened unbelievers can hear the Gospel their whole lives and read the Bible, even be “biblical scholars” for decades, but still completely miss the joy and satisfaction because of the stubborn unbelief in their hearts that causes them to always reject Christ.
So think of all the enjoyable and satisfying knowledge of God and all things that He’s given us through His Word, which also instructs us on becoming more intimate with Him, and brings us awe and such spiritual wonder. Think of all that you’ve come to treasure in God’s Word, from what we learn as lessons to individual stories of faith and individual verses and passages that are wondrously inspiring. While unbelievers don’t see it, only a divine being could produce the Bible.
Imagine, then, if we were without knowledge of the Gospel and didn’t have the Bible, as some peoples are still today. We’re blessed beyond measure by what God has given to us and continues to give us through them, and He gives us incomparable enjoyment and satisfaction through them, providing the food for our spiritual hunger.
I posted the following question in another thread the other day to any and every Catholic who would want to answer it:
What God-given satisfaction and enjoyment do you believe you get out of your beliefs on the Lord’s Supper? Include whatever you believe faithful Protestants don’t get.
I know I get great joy and satisfaction out of participating in the Lord’s Supper and part of that comes from recognizing that it’s all the most amazing work of the Lord. Like man is God’s crown on Creation, the sacrifice of God’s Son on the Cross after He became one of us and was put to death by us, yet He loves us regardless, is God’s crowning work.
So the Lord’s Supper, in which we remember this work of supreme divine love for us who are so unworthy is very meaningful to me, and I believe it to be a symbol but also more than that, in that it’s spiritual and in some way we’re partaking of God’s divine nature as spirit.
But the Catholic beliefs on the Lord’s Supper (what Paul called it) don’t have that appeal to me. I judge them to be religious, and the beliefs themselves and the experience not to carry the same joy and satisfaction of how the Lord’s Supper is celebrated in faithful Protestant churches.
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In a word...grace; we enjoy a personal relationship with Jesus that is more than just a slogan.
Jesus could be completely ignoring the “faithful Protestant” and they’d never know the difference.
Yep.
Going through Mary is not only not needed but is not Biblical.
Say what??
Protestantism is more of a philosophy than a religion. Strictly speaking, it doesn’t require any actual participation from God to function.
You’re clueless.
“In a word...grace; we enjoy a personal relationship with Jesus that is more than just a slogan.”
So describe it.
And when you say “more than just a slogan,” are you saying you think that Protestant born-again Christians are just using a slogan when we say that?
Because if that’s so, it’s just flat-out untrue. I see over the years how He’s been at work at my life, including over the decades when I didn’t even really understand that. And since I really began to study His Word, go to church, pray, praise Him and speak out as a witness for Him, He has grown my faith and also brought me ever closer to Him.
“Jesus could be completely ignoring the “faithful Protestant” and they’d never know the difference.”
How so when I’ve experienced myself being drawn closer to Him, including knowing Him better and growing in faith?
Hardly. When Protestants get Catholic converts, they’re the castoffs; when Catholics get Protestant converts, they’re the theologians.
I’ll soon be out-of-pocket for the night, but I’ll get back with you tomorrow.
When I hear the reasons for why an Evangelical leader becomes Catholic, it’s never convincing to me. It always sounds like they see worldiness in it that they like better, like not having to take Genesis literally.
And what does being a religious leader prove? Many have much more education and intellectual pride than faith.
“Now as they observed the confidence of Peter and John and understood that they were uneducated and untrained men, they were amazed, and began to recognize them as having been with Jesus,” Acts 4:13.
But don't worry; as my mom will be returning to earth many, many times to set you dudes straight.
Sorry I didn't have time to complete my work.
I am an astronomer and have been one for about 35 years. I have worked as a professional optician building thousands of telescopes. And I have seen every planet in the solar system. I do know what I’m talking about… And you need to head back to the old drawing board.
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