Ping
There is always the Tridentine Mass. This will probably cause it to grow. Jesus was led into the desert by the Holy Spirit where He was subjected to temptation by the devil.
God doesn’t lead us into temptation... I get that. However, we can catechize and teach people the meaning of the words. Changing the prayer will simply deepen the divide between Christians who will now not recite the same Lord’s Prayer as we have for millennia.
I am not Catholic. I am Southern Baptist. My Great Grandfather was the Methodist Circuit Rider for SE Georgia, My Grandfather was a Seminary trained Southern Baptist and Daddy was his Son.
They all hated Catholicism. I don’t. Although I disagree with many things, I still think they have saved many souls.
I just hope they get their act together before they turn into what many other churches have. That can only be described as Satanic.
Our Francis, who art all holy, hallowed be thy name...
καὶ μὴ εἰσενέγκῃς ἡμᾶς εἰς πειρασμόν
and it came to pass, that as He was praying in a certain place, when He ceased, one of His disciples said unto Him, Lord teach us to pray as John also taught his disciples.
And He said unto them, When ye pray, say
Our Father which art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy Name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, as in Heaven, so in Earth. Give us day by day our daily bread. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive everyone that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.
Luke 11:1-4
.....*It will exchange Christ’s invocation “and lead us not into temptation” with the Francis statement “do not abandon us to temptation.”.....
That’s dangerous ground to tread since it’s written....Then Jesus was ‘led by the Spirit’ into the desert to be tempted by the devil. ... while Satan’s goals were his own, the testing of Jesus was ordained by God....He was brought into temptation, but did not seek it. He was led of God into temptation.
It is also written... ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.”
Further .....He does bring us into the presence of many tests and temptations. “A man’s steps are from the Lord” (Proverbs 20:24).
What it teaches us is to pray that the temptation does not take us in. Don’t lead me into temptation.... but deliver me from this evil that is set before me...It’s a humble reliance on God in the face of evil..
God did not “abandon” Jesus in the wilderness of temptation.....Francis is wrong on this change.
.....*It will exchange Christ’s invocation “and lead us not into temptation” with the Francis statement “do not abandon us to temptation.”.....
That’s dangerous ground to tread since it’s written....Then Jesus was ‘led by the Spirit’ into the desert to be tempted by the devil. ... while Satan’s goals were his own, the testing of Jesus was ordained by God....He was brought into temptation, but did not seek it. He was led of God into temptation.
It is also written... ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.”
Further .....He does bring us into the presence of many tests and temptations. “A man’s steps are from the Lord” (Proverbs 20:24).
What it teaches us is to pray that the temptation does not take us in. Don’t lead me into temptation.... but deliver me from this evil that is set before me...It’s a humble reliance on God in the face of evil..
God did not “abandon” Jesus in the wilderness of temptation.....Francis is wrong on this change.
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francis is really pushing the envelope now.
how much more can the Catholics take?
To be clear:
francis has NOTHING, NOTHING to do with my praying or my prayers. He would be the LAST person or name I would think of in my meditation.
So why not actually POST THE TEXT of the “fake Our Father”??
I clicked through a bunch of links and NOWHERE is the actual full text given.
My parents taught me the Our Father when I was a toddler.
At no point in my life did I EVER believe that the prayer was saying that God leads us into temptation.
And if a 4-year old can figure it out, why can’t Francis?
PFFFT!
It's been BOGUS for centuries!!