Sola Scriptura Needs Sola Fide, and How to Refute Both

One Peter Five ^ | December 11, 2019 | Jacob Tate

[ealgeone]

This guys book is only 77 pages long. I’ve written papers for class longer than that.

[ealgeone]

Bro...the article has already been destroyed.

[ebb tide]

Dream on.

[ealgeone]

Good night, ebb.

LOL!

[MHGinTN]

Don’t take the mark when commanded to you, ebb, even if accompanied by amazing signs and wonders from the Catholi Mary. Don’t accept the mark, just call outto the Lord Christ and He alone, and He will deliver you from what is due you.

[ebb tide]

One of the first lessons I learned in my Intro to Greek was just why the JWs have their translation of John 1:1 incorrect.

But aren't you the one who is now trying to take a seminary course on where the bible came from?

Talk about putting the cart before the horse.

[ealgeone]

Glad to see you take such an interest my academic studies.

The course is required for the degree I'm obtaining.

I already have the Greek certificate.

In fact, I've used it many times already in refuting not only the false teachings of the JWs, but those of Rome as well.

[MHGinTN]

I am referring to the Mark of The Beast, which will be commanded to your ilk after the Real Ekklesia/Church as the Bride of Christ is removed from the wrath to come.

[ealgeone]

And the Scapular says?!

[MHGinTN]

“Only $11.95 and you can count on The Catholic Mary to keep you from Pope Gregory’s purgatory!”

[Mark17]

I think the majority will take the mark of the beast. Sad, but true.

[ealgeone]

Hey, bro....how’s the LT doing?

[boatbums]

It’s known as “revenge posting”. ;o)

[boatbums]

Francis is a heretic. He doesn’t have the Catholic faith.

You KNOW what is in Pope Francis' heart? You KNOW that he doesn't have the faith? Now YOU are playing God. Who are YOU to judge him? Shame on you.

For each tree is known by its own fruit. Indeed, people do not gather figs from thornbushes, or grapes from brambles. The good man brings good things out of the good treasure of his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil treasure of his heart. For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks. Why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ but not do what I say? (Luke 6:4-46)

[Iscool]

Eph 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 
Eph 2:9  Not of works, lest any man should boast. 

Faith, without works...

Faith + nothing...

Faith, by itself...

But NOT, faith alone???

[Wpin]

“I enter into this subject very hesitantly. But nevertheless, what a person believes with respect to their gaining salvation will be the deciding factor in their attaining it. Adherence to written or spoken instructions from this or that source is good or bad depending on the source- and therefore tricky.

If one believes, as do I, that the only path to salvation is a faith strong enough to be charitable and to not summarily harm others, there is no need for polemics like those in the article. For me “The just shall live by faith” does not discriminate between Catholic or Protestant “faith.”

Best post on this thread, doesn’t refer to the real danger of Sola Scritura but encapsulates very well the bottom line and just happens to be consistent with Catholic teachings.

[Wpin]

“I enter into this subject very hesitantly. But nevertheless, what a person believes with respect to their gaining salvation will be the deciding factor in their attaining it. Adherence to written or spoken instructions from this or that source is good or bad depending on the source- and therefore tricky.

If one believes, as do I, that the only path to salvation is a faith strong enough to be charitable and to not summarily harm others, there is no need for polemics like those in the article. For me “The just shall live by faith” does not discriminate between Catholic or Protestant “faith.”

Best post on this thread, doesn’t refer to the real danger of Sola Scritura but encapsulates very well the bottom line and just happens to be consistent with Catholic teachings.

[PerConPat]

Thank you for your understanding and your spirituality.

[af_vet_1981]

Sola scriptura can be argued independently of Sola Fide. If the scriptures are the sole source of authority for Christian faith and practice, that does not require or justify Sola fide (pardon for guilty sinners is granted to and received through faith alone, excluding all "works" (good deeds). The scriptures are interpreted in different ways by those who profess Sola scriptura, each has their own authority of men.

The more significant missing link in Sola scriptura is there is no definitive list in the scriptures of which scriptures pertain to Sola scriptura except through Sacred tradition.

The more salient point is the provenance of the Sacred tradition.