Posted on 12/29/2019 1:57:07 PM PST by ebb tide
I see.
I'd like to see just WHAT he is referring to here.
Elsie: I'd like to see just WHAT he is referring to here. (Post #782, referring to #780)
It is not Darby and his comment on the chaper that I was referring to, but rather to what you cited in #778, which is the rendering of the whole chapter by the NIV.
But regarding the single verse Romans 14:4,
συ τις ει ο κρινων αλλοτριον οικετην τω ιδιω κυριω στηκει η πιπτει σταθησεται δε δυνατος γαρ εστιν ο θεος στησαι αυτον (TR)Thew NIV translation is incorrect (although in this case, the interpretative paraphrase gives a clearer sense of the meaning as it would appear to the 1st century Greek speaker). That is, the servants of the Lord who are quibbling over matters non-essential to soteriological doctrine have the same standing before God, because it is God the Judge Who has already determined their destination.
συ τις ει ο κρινων αλλοτριον οικετην τω ιδιω κυριω στηκει η πιπτει σταθησεται δε δυνατει γαρ ο κυριος στησαι αυτον (Westcott & Hort)
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. (KJV/AV)
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? To his own lord he standeth or falleth. And he shall stand: for God is able to make him stand. (Douay-Rheims)
Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master[a] that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. (ESV)
Who are you to judge someone elses servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand. (NIV)
What Paul does here regarding ceasing the quibbling over man-made customs does not give one an excuse for ignoring the duty to firmly confront and admonish when essential God-breathed doctrine is becoming corrupted and the Gospel message destroyed. And tht is what Paul does in other chapters of the book, where he treats the more important matters of law, grace, faith, salvation, justification, and sanctification.
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