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The Meaning of the Magi...Matthew nativity pt 4
https://billrandles.wordpress.com/2019/12/15/the-meaning-of-the-magi-matthew-nativity-pt-4/ ^ | 12-12-19 | Bill Randles

Posted on 12/14/2019 7:49:15 PM PST by pastorbillrandles

Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born. And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel… When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was. When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy. And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh. ( Matthew 2:1-11)

Wise men from the East came seeking Jesus, calling him “King of the Jews”. Who were they and how did they know to come and seek him?

The Eastern frontier of the Roman Empire was the Euphrates river. The Parthians (Medo/Persians) were a particular threat to the Romans, never having succumbed to the Roman expansion and handily resisting them upon every incursion from the west.

The Magi came from Persia, their ‘school of the Magi’ was believed to have dated all the way back to the days of Daniel the prophet, from his time in the schools of Babylon, and then Persia.

The Magi were careful observers of astronomy, as well as being completely conversant with the Hebrew prophets (especially Daniel). Why are they considered Kings? Because they were of an ancient Persian Priestly caste, of teachers, philosophers, and educators of Kings. No King could be crowned in Persia without having mastered the teachings of the Magi, and without the approval of the same.

When the Magi came west, to seek Jesus, (There were far more than three of them), Herod and all of Jerusalem were troubled. Quite a large contingent of them crossed the frontier into the Eastern most district of the Roman Empire, the defense of which, Herod would have been responsible. The Magi would have come with a military escort, and a caravan of supplies. Some ancient historians speculate that they would have been accompanied by up to a thousand mounted cavalrymen.

What did they seek? the King of the Jews. They had seen a star, as a portent of the birth of a powerful King. They were also familiar with the prophecies of Balaam, the pagan Seer, whom God put prophecy into his mouth, back in the days of the Exodus,

I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth. (Numbers 24:17)

Was this the Star out of Jacob, which would crush heathendom in its unity against the only true God? The Medo/Persian Magi were so sure of it, they openly told Herod, that they had come to worship Him, (Christ).

Herod immediately called a counsel of his advisors; Chief Priests, scribes, experts in the Torah, in order to demand of them the birth place of the Messiah. Already the baby jesus was causing the Kings of the earth and their rulers to seek counsel against the LORD and his Messiah.

Without hesitation, a Priest, or scribe rattled off the prophecy of Micah, that Messiah would be born in Bethlehem of Judea, the place of King David and his family.

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting… And he shall stand and feed in the strength of the Lord, in the majesty of the name of the Lord his God; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth.( Micah 5:2,4)

Other than mindlessly rattling off the scripture which they were familiar with on the one hand, and blind and deadened to on the other, there seemed to be very little interest in walking the short journey from Jerusalem to Bethlehem to see of there was anything to what the Medo Persian contingent had traveled 500 miles to inquire of.

Herod was quite interested for other reasons as we will see.

The Magi would follow the star until they found the child within two years after the interview by Herod. By that time Jesus no longer an infant ,but was a Paidon, ( a young child just walking). The Star led them to the very house where Jesus was living, and with his mother.

Their gifts of Gold,Frankincense and Myrrh, all point to his Kingly dignity, His Deity, (Gold) and the fact that he is a Priest (Frankincense) . Myrrh points to his substitutionary death for our salvation.

These gifts are also a foretaste of a Prophecy for the restoration of Israel and the Jewish people by Isaiah, in which the Gentiles will come streaming in to present the wealth of the nations to God’s chosen people,

Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising. Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side. Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee. The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the Lord. All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory.( Isaiah 60:1-7)

In the days to come, Israel’s sorrow will be turned to joy and her fortunes will be restored, in the days of the Messiah, and instead of being “forsaken and hated” the Gentiles will pour in, bringing their gifts.

They entered into the house, fell down and worshiped him.

Priests of God, scribes and Jewish elders didn’t bother to seek him, although they knew the scripture, but these Medo/Persian King trainers, knew a King when they saw him (by the Holy Spirit) so they bowed down to worship and adore him.

Another factor which made the Magi sensitive enough to know the time had come for the King of the Jews to be born, was their familiarity with the Prophet Daniel.

Five hundred and forty some years previously, the prophet Daniel was praying about the future of his people, from captivity in Babylon, and in Persia. An amazing time sensitive prophecy was revealed to Him, personally delivered to him by the Angel Gabriel.

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. (Daniel 9:25-27)

The future of Daniel’s people, (Israel) would be decided in a manner of 70 weeks of years,(490 years). Within that time the entire program of God for them will be concluded; finish transgression,end of sins,reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting rightiousness, seal up the vision, and all prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Picture a stopwatch. It starts “from the going of the command the restore and build Jerusalem”… This decree of Artaxerxes, occurred in 444BC and is recounted in Nehemiah 2.

We are told, that in 69 weeks, (483 years(, Messiah the Prince would come and die, but not for himself but for the people”. This would bring us to the year 33 AD. (At this point the Divine stopwatch stopped. ;eaving 7 more years for God to complete his program for Israel).

These Magi had studied Daniel’s prophecies copiously for centuries. Thus they would have known that the time was near for the Messiah to present himself, and they knew to be aware and to understand the star and it’s meaning.

The meaning of the Magi is clear, that those who seek the Messiah, and his salvation and who fear God and tremble at his word, will find the Christ, and be able to bow down and Worship Him. Those who have no heart for God, even if they are familiar with scripture, will not seek Him, and will not find Him.


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology; Worship
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To: MHGinTN; fproy2222
AoF #11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may. (except them damned FUNDAMENTALIST LDS folks who insist on following D&C 132 as it is written!)
121 posted on 12/20/2019 2:03:21 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

LOL


122 posted on 12/20/2019 2:05:15 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Elsie

Merry Christmas brother.


123 posted on 12/20/2019 4:43:56 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: fproy2222
May you injoy the season set aside to celebrate Christ’s Mass.


What I enjoy; is being able to illustrate, with official Mormon sources; the season of Joseph Smith's mess!


So now I've watched a near orgasmic Mormon babble on for about 12 or so minutes, in which time I managed to find ANY links to this 'new found data' at all!


At 4:45, we get a reference to Algonquin natives, and their nearby relatives,
At 6:00 we hear about digging up bones from Indian mounds,
At 6:15 we hear, "Whoops! I guess all this stuff we've been putting forward about Mayans is, shall we say; a bit wrong,
and on, and on, and on.


My take away from all this?

You Mormons do NOT follow your own advice.


124 posted on 12/21/2019 4:21:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222

Official Declaration—2

 

To Whom It May Concern:

On 30 September 1978, at the 148th Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the following was presented by President N. Eldon Tanner, First Counselor in the First Presidency of the Church:

In early June of this year, the First Presidency announced that a revelation had been received by President Spencer W. Kimball extending priesthood and temple blessings to all worthy male members of the Church. President Kimball has asked that I advise the conference that after he had received this revelation, which came to him after extended meditation and prayer in the sacred rooms of the holy temple, he presented it to his counselors, who accepted it and approved it. It was then presented to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, who unanimously approved it, and was subsequently presented to all other General Authorities, who likewise approved it unanimously.

President Kimball has asked that I now read this letter:

June 8, 1978
To all general and local priesthood officers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints throughout the world:
Dear Brethren:

As we have witnessed the expansion of the work of the Lord over the earth, we have been grateful that people of many nations have responded to the message of the restored gospel, and have joined the Church in ever-increasing numbers. This, in turn, has inspired us with a desire to extend to every worthy member of the Church all of the privileges and blessings which the gospel affords.

Aware of the promises made by the prophets and presidents of the Church who have preceded us that at some time, in God’s eternal plan, all of our brethren who are worthy may receive the priesthood, and witnessing the faithfulness of those from whom the priesthood has been withheld, we have pleaded long and earnestly in behalf of these, our faithful brethren, spending many hours in the Upper Room of the Temple supplicating the Lord for divine guidance.

He has heard our prayers, and by revelation has confirmed that the long-promised day has come when every faithful, worthy man in the Church may receive the holy priesthood, with power to exercise its divine authority, and enjoy with his loved ones every blessing that flows therefrom, including the blessings of the temple. Accordingly, all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color. Priesthood leaders are instructed to follow the policy of carefully interviewing all candidates for ordination to either the Aaronic or the Melchizedek Priesthood to insure that they meet the established standards for worthiness.

We declare with soberness that the Lord has now made known his will for the blessing of all his children throughout the earth who will hearken to the voice of his authorized servants, and prepare themselves to receive every blessing of the gospel.

Sincerely yours,
Spencer W. Kimball
N. Eldon Tanner
Marion G. Romney
The First Presidency

Recognizing Spencer W. Kimball as the prophet, seer, and revelator, and president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is proposed that we as a constituent assembly accept this revelation as the word and will of the Lord. All in favor please signify by raising your right hand. Any opposed by the same sign.

The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous in the affirmative.

Salt Lake City, Utah, September 30, 1978.

125 posted on 12/21/2019 4:23:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
In early June of this year (1978), the First Presidency announced that a revelation had been received by President Spencer W. Kimball ....

 

As we have witnessed the expansion of the work of the Lord over the earth, we have been grateful that people of many nations have responded to the message of the restored gospel, and have joined the Church in ever-increasing numbers. This, in turn, has inspired us with a desire to extend to every worthy member of the Church all of the privileges and blessings which the gospel affords....

 

...we have pleaded long and earnestly in behalf of these, our faithful brethren, spending many hours in the Upper Room of the Temple supplicating the Lord for divine guidance.

He has heard our prayers,

The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous in the affirmative.

 
Why has none of your subsequent Living Prophets® seen fit to supplicate about the DNA thing?
 
"We are bleeding members into the THOUSANDS about this DNA problem!"  (From YouTube video)
 
"Reveal to us some tangible evidence:
ANYTHING from the ground from the large battles;
ANY mound built BY Lamanites or Nephiites;
ANY bones from ANY of the animals unique to the BoM;
the LOCATION of the Golden Plates again;
or even just WHY You have let us put out wrong information about the Mayans!", should be the long and earnest prayer on the lips of every 'authority' in TCOJCOLDS!

126 posted on 12/21/2019 4:37:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222; teppe; Normandy
You Mormons do NOT follow your own advice.

If any of you lack wisdom...


I'm curious; as probably others are as well; just what; in the last 40 or so years, has ANY LP® prophesied about?

I'd like to see an official list of these things.

Until then; Have a good day and enjoy the fruits of your chosen religion.

127 posted on 12/21/2019 4:41:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1

Ping


128 posted on 12/21/2019 4:52:24 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: fproy2222; imardmd1
I see you HAVE posted other stuff since...  


 

129 posted on 12/23/2019 4:47:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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130 posted on 12/24/2019 4:02:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Seems like the issues we’ve shared have faded and newer Morgbot issues have risen. Romney has crapped and stepped in it and that’s a good thing. Little Mia Love might have second thoughts about failure to seek the proper endorsement and poor little Elizabeth Smart has a new embarrassment to deal with.

Spent the last few days in Salt Lake City and went to see a fabulous movie. Clint Eastwood has scored five stars with Richard Jewell. The press and the FBI have some real splainen to do.


131 posted on 12/24/2019 10:50:05 AM PST by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah: At the Maynard Dixon Home and Studio)
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To: Utah Binger

The Press should be Term Limited..


132 posted on 12/24/2019 11:07:34 AM PST by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: Utah Binger

Libs hate it.


133 posted on 12/24/2019 11:59:02 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Utah Binger

Golly, Dad; what were you doing when I and my brother and sisters were conceived?


134 posted on 12/24/2019 5:09:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger
...Little Mia Love might have second thoughts about failure to seek the proper endorsement...

Even Ezra Taft Benson sought the permission to be Secretary of Agriculture.

135 posted on 12/24/2019 5:12:12 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Merry Christmas young man.

The other day I heard someone complaining about “It’s a Wonderful Life”, saying she thought it was a negative. Course she’s a liberal Morgbot. (SIL)

If someone says this historical masterpiece is negative they are most likely of an opinion that Scrooge didn’t deserve the spiritual solace he found. This movie exemplifies “Grace” without reference to any organized beliefs.

There’s my belief system in short form.


136 posted on 12/25/2019 8:21:58 AM PST by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah: At the Maynard Dixon Home and Studio)
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To: Utah Binger

Post that snow picture out yer front door again!


137 posted on 12/26/2019 4:21:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Post that snow picture out yer front door again!

We're away until tomorrow but I'm sure it snowed over there. Maybe I'll share the beauty once again....BTW we were having a family get together in Salt Lake and my BIL said look at what I've got. He had a remote camera fixed on his adoptees as he called them. Two fine goats. Reminded me of you.

138 posted on 12/26/2019 8:07:55 AM PST by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah: At the Maynard Dixon Home and Studio)
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