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Swim the Mississippi: Why Conservative Lutheranism is the Faith Tradition Many Evangelicals Seek
RCR ^ | 11/02/2019 | Tom Raabe

Posted on 11/02/2019 6:58:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: aimhigh

But; is all God’s breath Scripture?


61 posted on 11/03/2019 1:59:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Wonder Warthog
"Sola scriptura" is simply ludicrous on its face when viewed against the bigger picture.

And yet; the Book Rome assembled; indicates that the Bereans were the MORE noble folks.

WHY? you ask??

BECAUSE the checked the scriptures - DAILY - to see if what they were being told was true.


Acts 17:11


Today's 'Bereans' cannot find; in scripture; a whole lot of things that Rome claims are essential.

62 posted on 11/03/2019 2:02:53 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

that does not even deserve a reply. Seriously!


63 posted on 11/03/2019 2:02:59 PM PST by Mom MD (if)
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To: Mom MD

Why not?

If a wafer can change into the BODY why not actually eat the body to begin with?


64 posted on 11/03/2019 2:04:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mom MD

Psalm 53:4
Psalm 14:4
Psalm 27:2


65 posted on 11/03/2019 2:05:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I am not catholic. We do. it believe in transubstantiation


66 posted on 11/03/2019 2:39:56 PM PST by Mom MD (if)
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To: SeekAndFind; Gamecock; Elsie

I already have an ancient “faith tradition”.

It’s called the Scriptures.


67 posted on 11/03/2019 2:40:18 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Mom MD
In for a penny; in for a pound.


John 6:35

“And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.”


Houston; we have a problem.

68 posted on 11/03/2019 2:45:28 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SeekAndFind
It’s become even more so now that so much of the conservative Protestant world has fled so purposely from symbolic architecture and time-honored aesthetics, and has chosen to worship in big boxy rooms with giant worship screens, all-enveloping sound systems, and Chris Tomlin-wannabes singing from the stage.

This is so true!

However; Jesus used loaves and fishes to bring them in; and that Paul fella?

He said he'd be all things to all men to try to win a few of them.


1 Corinthians 9:22

69 posted on 11/03/2019 2:48:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: old-ager

Barking up the wrong tree. LCMS practices infant baptism. Got any other nastiness for me?


70 posted on 11/03/2019 3:10:51 PM PST by Mom MD (if)
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To: Mom MD
Lutherans are not saved by baptism.

Why do you think Jesus allowed Himself to be baptized?

71 posted on 11/03/2019 4:53:51 PM PST by ebb tide (I am Christeros. I am Michael Del Bufalo.)
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To: aimhigh
"The problem with your view is that when something you think is true contradicts scripture, you are willing to abandon scripture."

Nope...exactly the opposite. I accept ALL of scripture, not the sort of selective quoting and scriptural blindness that Protestants constantly are guilty of. St Paul said "...hold fast to the doctrines you had from me, both BY WORD OF MOUTH, and by letter". This specifically contradicts the whole notion of "sola scriptura", IN SCRIPTURE, right there in plain sight, yet Protestants just don't seem to see that little verse.

72 posted on 11/03/2019 4:55:37 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: ebb tide

No one is saved by baptism. It is an act of faith and obedience commanded by God. Baptism without faith will not save you. Christ was baptized in perfect obedience to the will of His Father.


73 posted on 11/03/2019 4:56:41 PM PST by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD
No one is saved by baptism.

That's not what Scripture says.

74 posted on 11/03/2019 4:59:16 PM PST by ebb tide (I am Christeros. I am Michael Del Bufalo.)
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To: Mom MD

One and one-half questions:

Do you believe in Original Sin?

If “yes”, if two infants are born on the same day, and one is baptized and one is not baptized, and those two infants are killed in car crash three days later; do both those infants go to heaven?


75 posted on 11/03/2019 5:08:10 PM PST by ebb tide (I am Christeros. I am Michael Del Bufalo.)
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To: Mom MD

I am a Lutheran and was baptized by a Methodist when I was a baby. God converted me at that moment. I didn’t decide to be baptized but I’m really glad it happened!

Christ promises He will never leave nor forsake us. How is that for eternal security? Any time we wonder, we can just remember that one statement.

I actually went to a Baptist church for many months, coming from a watered down Methodist church. The Baptists were sure they were saved, which was good, because the Methodists weren’t really worried about it!

But I was never sure that I had appropriately made my decision and commitment. I just happened to be more introspective, sensitive, honest and intelligent than the other young men swaggering in their self-assurance.

So just as Lutheran doctrine and Scripture teach, if you rely on ANY THING you have done, you are not certain of your salvation because you are relying on the WRONG THING.

Your decision and commitment are filthy rags. Christ’s decision to go to the cross for you is better than the purest gold.

If we are scandalized, appalled and terrified at the idea of people leaving Christ after knowing Him, we should be. But He wants us to be reassured by His promise (above). It is a mystery how someone can hate Him after loving Him, but Scripture says it happens, and we have seen it happen.

I urge you to criticize, doubt and question your own decision and commitment just long enough to realize how prideful and foolish relying on those in any way for assurance of your salvation is. I encourage you to have a moment of despair, knowing that you could have decided much more honestly and been much more committed. Then rest in Christ’s promise that He has died for the whole world, and He will not leave you nor forsake you (in hell or any other bad place).


76 posted on 11/03/2019 5:14:33 PM PST by old-ager
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To: old-ager

Not sure what you are getting at here. I am saved by grace through faith and it is Christ’s work not mine as are all those washed in His blood. I trust in Him completely and have the joy of salvation that cannot be taken from me.


77 posted on 11/04/2019 3:17:37 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: ebb tide

Allowed?

It that what you have been taught?


78 posted on 11/04/2019 3:55:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Wonder Warthog
.hold fast to the doctrines you had from me, both BY WORD OF MOUTH, and by letter". This specifically contradicts the whole notion of "sola scriptura",

No; it doesn't.

It shows that what was SAID was the SAME as what was WRITTEN.

79 posted on 11/04/2019 3:57:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: old-ager
God converted me at that moment.

HE did?

80 posted on 11/04/2019 3:58:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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