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Swim the Mississippi: Why Conservative Lutheranism is the Faith Tradition Many Evangelicals Seek
RCR ^ | 11/02/2019 | Tom Raabe

Posted on 11/02/2019 6:58:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/02/2019 6:58:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I am half Baptist half Lutheran. There are aspects of both that hold my Christianity together.


2 posted on 11/02/2019 7:00:25 PM PDT by BRL
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To: SeekAndFind

bkmk


3 posted on 11/02/2019 7:01:41 PM PDT by Mom MD
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Bump


4 posted on 11/02/2019 7:08:06 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Charles Henrickson

Ping.


5 posted on 11/02/2019 7:11:58 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

We went to ALC or LCA, depending on which church was closest as we moved a lot. I did attend a LCMS school in 8th grade.


6 posted on 11/02/2019 7:17:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Heading for the Catholic Church?


7 posted on 11/02/2019 7:22:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you for posting this. I found it interesting.


8 posted on 11/02/2019 7:30:22 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: SeekAndFind

truth. thanks.


9 posted on 11/02/2019 7:54:43 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I grew up i the ALC which was very biblical and then THE MERGER happened and it all went to hell. We escaped from there to the LCMS. I know God loves me very much because even though I knew the catechism, and had a good biblical background, but it was the LCMS that really got it through my head how salvation really works. There is no sin I may have committed that the blood of Jesus did not take away. IT is a GIFT. All I Have to do is believe. It is so liberating, so simple that everyone should know this promise.


10 posted on 11/02/2019 8:03:37 PM PDT by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: SeekAndFind

The LCMS in my town became an ELDoNA whatever that is. I think there are only about 17 in the US.


11 posted on 11/02/2019 8:05:42 PM PDT by sockmonkey (I am an America First, not Israel First FReeper.)
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To: SeekAndFind

one problem though. a lot of conservative Lutherans seem really confused about government and elections. a lot of them still vote for pure evil like Clinton, and can’t stand Trump. because they are living in the past. that’s good when it comes to theology, and bad when it comes to current events.


12 posted on 11/02/2019 8:08:11 PM PDT by old-ager
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Agree. One is either Christian, or you’re a Democrat. It is not possible for an informed Christian to vote a Democrat.


13 posted on 11/02/2019 8:12:39 PM PDT by Wm F Buckley Republican
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But Jesus does not lay out a proper form for his church.

That's a bizarre statement. The bible clearly lays out the form in Ephesians 4:11-12. The bible lays out the qualifications for elders and deacons in 1 Tim 3 and in Titus. The bible lays out a church service in 1 Cor 14:27 to 37. Are those not good enough?

14 posted on 11/02/2019 8:17:48 PM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: Wm F Buckley Republican

> IT is a GIFT. All I Have to do is believe

And His proclamation created the faith in you. You didn’t even make yourself believe!


15 posted on 11/02/2019 8:18:02 PM PDT by old-ager
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> It is not possible for an informed Christian to vote a Democrat.

Somehow they are doing it. Harrison himself has stated that about 48% of MO synod lay people vote D.

I think part of it is confusion about the “two kingdoms.”

At the very top of the synod (don’t want to name any names) there was basically no support for Trump’s effort to get rid of the “Johnson Amendment.”


16 posted on 11/02/2019 8:19:43 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: SeekAndFind

I like conservative Anglicanism (Anglican Church in North America) (ACNA) (NOT The Episcopal Church, TEC). It’s the culturally English Church from the Reformation, not the culturally German/Scandinavian Church, which is Lutheranism.

Also, LCMS Lutheranism, and WELS, severely condemn those who don’t hold to their specific doctrine on holy communion, whereas in Anglicanism, while the favored view is the Real Presence, those who cannot quite accept that are welcome at the communion rail, as long as they confess Christ and are baptised.

The original break within Protestantism was Luther’s intolerance of the Swiss Reformer Zwingli’s view of holy communion...and I find that intolerance, the lasting result of it....quite sad.


17 posted on 11/02/2019 8:30:56 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG!!!)
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To: aimhigh
But Jesus does not lay out a proper form for his church.

That's a bizarre statement. The bible clearly lays out the form in Ephesians 4:11-12. The bible lays out the qualifications for elders and deacons in 1 Tim 3 and in Titus. The bible lays out a church service in 1 Cor 14:27 to 37. Are those not good enough?

What they mean is that Jesus did not designate the Church of Rome as His specific church organization....... Naming Peter "Rocky," didn't do it!

18 posted on 11/02/2019 8:34:38 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG!!!)
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The LCMS does not condemn those who do not share our view of communion. We just ask those who do not believe in the Real Presence as we do to refrain from communing at our altar, as I do when visiting a church where I do not share their beliefs about communion. Otherwise they are welcome in our services.


19 posted on 11/02/2019 8:41:44 PM PDT by Mom MD
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When I say condemn, I mean you are not in communion with anyone not LCMS. I’m aware that other Christians are welcome in your churches—just not welcome at the Lord’s table.

In that sense, you follow Martin Luther who broke communion with Zwingli, because they did not agree on the meaning of the Lord’s Supper.


20 posted on 11/02/2019 9:08:08 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG!!!)
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