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1 posted on 09/01/2019 3:49:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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2 posted on 09/01/2019 3:50:42 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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How do we know if it’s false?


3 posted on 09/01/2019 3:59:40 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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4 posted on 09/01/2019 4:00:20 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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BKMK*****


5 posted on 09/01/2019 4:00:53 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. I'm. AN ANTI DEMITE)
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” For example, the vision recorded in Daniel 7 correctly predicted the rise of the Medo-Persian Empire, the Greek Empire under Alexander the Great, and the Roman Empire. “

Daniel was written after Alexander was dead.


6 posted on 09/01/2019 4:04:00 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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Because the Bible is one of the most investigated documents in the history of man.

And has desperately been trying to be proven false for 2000 years?

With amazing technologies undreamed of since then?

What other than the truth could hold up?


9 posted on 09/01/2019 4:21:35 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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I heard someone say, the Bible is an anvil, that has worn out many a hammer. 👍
13 posted on 09/01/2019 4:29:26 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
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Yeah but few people know there were 15 commandments originally!! (movie reference, not blasphemy)

Actually, all joking aside, there’s like 600 plus, one of my Jewish friends told me.


14 posted on 09/01/2019 4:32:29 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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Stick with the NKJV. NIV is too far afield. I used to own one.


17 posted on 09/01/2019 4:39:29 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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NASB is a more accurate version, btw.


18 posted on 09/01/2019 4:41:23 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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If you want “The Word,” get a KJV and cross out all of the italicised words.

That is as close as you can get without spending a decade studying Hebrew. (all of Yehova’s word was delivered in the hebrew language as Paul plainly stated in his letter to the Romans.)

The word is now available in the original Hebrew for all but a few NT letters.


20 posted on 09/01/2019 4:45:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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The way that's presented, it looks like circular reasoning. "the bible is true because the bible says it's true. But there are other ways...

God reveals his power in two ways:
1) Miracles which reveal the power of God.
2) Prophecies which reveal the foreknowledge of God.

Reasons we know scripture is true:
1) The message itself. To Love God with all your heart and to love your neighbor as yourself and to even love your enemies is a higher calling than other religions that will tell you do no harm. The bible calls us to an active love.
2) The message itself. Most religions consider their God or gods to be holy and pure. But the Bible tells us to "Be Holy for I am holy" and "Be Perfect for I am Perfect". The BIble tells us that God is going to judge us by his own standard which is holy perfection.


That we need to be perfect is a different standard than other religions. And that illustrates the need for forgiveness.
3) We have prophecies such as Israel being gathered back from all over the world that have been fulfilled in the last century. Lev 26, Ezekiel 20:34,Isaiah 11:11-12,Isaiah 43:5-6,21,Psalm 107:2-3,Jeremiah 29:14.Amos 9:11-15,Zechariah 8:4-8, and others.
4) You have the testimony of the early church. They would have seen Jesus themselves.
5) You have references by secular historians.
6) You do have archaeological digs.
7) You have the coherence of the scriptures. The Rabbi's writing before Jesus had identified 167 prophecies about the Messiah. Jesus fulfilled them all.

Individually, God reveals himself to us when we


21 posted on 09/01/2019 4:46:31 PM PDT by DannyTN
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It takes an act of faith to believe the entire bible is the literal word of God... There is much of it that sounds too far fetched to be true, like Noah’s ark and the flood covering the whole earth... or Jonah and the whale. I think it stems from us trying to put the greatness of God into simple human understanding and being limited to humans words and especially after the languages were confused. The example I got was that the Hebrew language used I think 5 or 6 different words that would all be translated in English to the same word, Love.

I had a really hard time trying to figure out what the King James version was saying, much less what it meant. I was taught the bible had all the answers man had on how we should live our lives... but I did not know what it was saying. I really did not even pick one up, most of my adult life... and especially after the internet when I could just search for, what does the bible say about “X”
(which is still a good tool, many times you get multiple good verses back to read...)

Last year I found Amir Tsarfati and he kept talking about Ezekiel’s war brewing, so instead of reading the King James version I found an online NIV version and read Ezekiel... I understood what he was saying, so then I decided it was time to read the whole bible.

I got an Interlinear NIV Hebrew-English Old Testament because I wanted to see the original text translated as it was written, But the NIV is just written in plain English that you don’t need to try to figure out what it is saying...

I found it interesting listening to somebody reading the King James while following along in my NIV and where they read something different, they come back and clarify with exactly what my Bible says in the first place.


29 posted on 09/01/2019 5:04:18 PM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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A friend of mine calls the NIV the “Nearly Inspired Version.”

I call it the redacted Bible, because it is missing so many verses in the NT.

The translators used a different Greek manuscript than some of the older English translations.

The earlier comment about using a King James and ignoring the italicized words is spot-on. That yields an almost perfect translation from the original languages, albeit with awkward syntax.


33 posted on 09/01/2019 5:42:36 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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Given the rather serious and continuous missteps of the clergy and the organization that protects them, this is a very important question.


34 posted on 09/01/2019 6:03:35 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Because it is inspired by the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Triune God.


46 posted on 09/01/2019 7:02:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The “myth” of the Hittite Empire was once the favorite reason to discount the historicity of the Bible.

Then the secular, skeptical archaeologists discovered Hattushah, its capital. Oops.

Did they admit they were wrong, and the Bible was right? Did they change their attitude toward the Bible? No. They just moved on to the next best reason.

It is a matter of faith. They have anti-faith, and no amount or pragmatic validation will ever suffice for them.


56 posted on 09/01/2019 8:51:11 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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“How Do We Know the Bible Is True?”

It requires something the writer doesn’t have......faith.

rwood


57 posted on 09/01/2019 10:19:55 PM PDT by Redwood71
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How Do We Know the Bible Is True?

Because there are over 50 OT prophecies of the birth, death, burial and resurrection of Jesus AND THEY ALL CAME TO PASS...What are the mathematical odds of that??? There were over 500 eyewitnesses to seeing the resurrected Jesus alone...

65 posted on 09/01/2019 11:29:49 PM PDT by Iscool
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For $2.99, you can get a kindle version of “The Lexical Interlinear Hebrew/Greek KJV of the Bible. It translates every English word in the Bible, to the Hebrew or Greek meaning (and also spelled out in the Hebrew or Greek alphabet, for those who know how to read the original). It combines the beauty of the kjv, with the accuracy of Strong’s translations, line by line, without footnotes. It’s awesome.
At Bible Hub (online), you can read the KJV, NASB, or HCSB (nearly identical to the NIV), with the Strong’s concordance, as well; or a parallel of those and some other translations, side by side, too, for free.


77 posted on 09/02/2019 11:42:14 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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