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After 40 years, 'megachurch' pastor slams Christianity and quits, deacon claims he had affair
Christian Post ^ | May 7, 2019 | Leonardo Blair

Posted on 06/05/2019 11:27:40 AM PDT by Gamecock

Dave Gass, a former pastor who most recently led Grace Family Fellowship in Pleasant Hill, Missouri, has renounced his Christian faith as a system rife with abuse that caused him “mental and emotional breaks.”

A representative from his former church, however, has accused him of being an unrepentant adulterer.

Gass reportedly first made his announcement in a series of now protected tweets but not before they were copied and shared across multiple social media platforms.

“After 40 years of being a devout follower, 20 of those being an evangelical pastor, I am walking away from faith. Even though this has been a massive bomb drop in my life, it has been decades in the making,” he began in the thread before moving on to compare Scripture to Greek mythology.

“When I was in 8th grade and I was reading Greek mythology, it dawned on me how much of the supernatural interactions between the deity of the bible and mankind sounded like ancient mythology. That seed of doubt never went away,” he said.

He explained how he was raised in a “hyper-fundamentalist” Christian home where Christianity “didn’t work. The promises were empty. The answers were lies.”

Even so, he grew up to be a devout Christian who rarely missed church or failed to study Scripture.

“I was fully devoted to studying the scriptures. I think I missed maybe 12 Sundays in 40 years. I had completely memorized 18 books of the bible and was reading through the bible for the 24th time when I walked away,” he wrote.

None of it, however, helped his marriage.

“As an adult my marriage was a sham and a constant source of pain for me. I did everything I was supposed to - marriage workshops, counseling, bible reading together, date nights every week, marriage books - but my marriage never became what I was promised it would be,” he said.

He went on to discuss how miserable his life eventually became as his expectations, including experiencing the supernatural failed to match up with the reality he was experiencing.

“An inescapable reality that I came to was that the people who benefited the most from organized religion were the fringe attenders who didn’t take it too seriously. The people who were devout were the most miserable, but just kept trying harder,” he said.

“… The entire system is rife with abuse. And not just from the top down, sure there are abusive church leaders, but church leaders are abused by their congregants as well. Church people are just sh*tty to each other,” he continued. “I spent my entire life serving, loving, and trying to help people in my congregations. And the lies, betrayal, and slander I have received at the hands of church people left wounds that may never heal.”

He said he struggled so much with his church experience it began to affect his mental and ultimately physical health.

“This massive cognitive dissonance - my beliefs not matching with reality - created a separation between my head and my heart. I was gas lighting myself to stay in the faith. Eventually I could not maintain the facade anymore, I started to have mental and emotional breaks. My internal stress started to show in physical symptoms. Being a pastor - a professional Christian - was killing me,” Gass revealed.

To save himself, he said, he chose to walk away from the church.

“Eventually I pulled the lever and dropped the bomb. Career, marriage, family, social standing, network, reputation, all gone in an instant. And honestly I didn’t intend to fully walk away, but the way the church turned on me forced me to leave permanently,” he said.

He apologized to his former followers and said he still loves those who choose to dismiss him as an “apostate.”

“For those of you who want to yell at me, that’s fine. I know that many will call me an apostate, say I was never really saved, that I was a wolf in sheep’s clothing, and that a hotter hell awaits me. And to you I say I love you. My heart is tender toward you,” he said.

“To those who have been in my congregations or under my teaching/preaching I sincerely apologize. I thought I was right. I thought I was doing the right thing. I thought I could fake it until I made it. I was wrong. I’m sorry. I love you,” he added.

Justin Thuttle, a deacon at Grace Family Fellowship Church, claimed on Twitter that Gass was not entirely forthcoming about his faith journey and branded him an unrepentant sinner.

“Yes, he was my pastor when he ‘walked away’. He actually just slept with a married women (sic) in the church and got caught. He never repented and they still live together,” he wrote in a tweet last Thursday.

“Last year all the information came to light. The affair happened for almost a year before it was uncovered. So the whole, ‘I did everything right in my marriage’ part was kinda funny until I saw how many people liked his story,” he said.

The Christian Post reached out to the church for further comment Tuesday and a representative who asked to speak anonymously said Thuttle's response is accurate.

"Justin’s input is accurate. I would only add that, to our knowledge, none of the churches where Gass was on staff were megachurches. And after he resigned, he cut off all communications with anyone from Grace Family Fellowship," the representative said.


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To: cuban leaf
Yeah. The parish I attend is full of sinners. How do I know? There's a long line for Confessions every Sunday. And I'm in that line regularly.
81 posted on 06/05/2019 2:57:58 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Colonel (Retired) USAF.)
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To: xzins

We just got back from Maui. We went to a Calvary Chapel service on the beach in LaHaina. The pastor there is just amazing. He has an incredible and contagious enthusiasm for the Bible. This next week he will have finally finished preaching through the whole Bible after 26 years. Then he’s going to start over. Amazingly although people from all over the world go to his beach services every Sunday, his permanent flock is actually very small.

I get the feeling his congregation is not very big because he doesn’t hold back and try to sugar coat his sermons. On the Sunday service he was referencing the importance of repentance and he said, “Hell is real, people. You’ve got to take this seriously.” I’m sure he offended a lot of the cheap grace visitors.

If I lived on the island there is no doubt I would make this my home Church. I watch his sermons every week on Vimeo. His enthusiasm inspires me. Free mail me and I’ll send you a link.


82 posted on 06/05/2019 3:57:09 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: cuban leaf

A reasonable position.

The Word instructs assembling together; it includes just two or three as sufficing.

Denominations, and all that attend them, are not mandated, nor enormous gatherings in specific structures.

In fact, being dedicated followers of sects, e.g., of Cephus, is actually denounced.

I call that Churchianity.


83 posted on 06/05/2019 5:26:21 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: YogicCowboy
The Word instructs assembling together; it includes just two or three as sufficing.

Denominations, and all that attend them, are not mandated, nor enormous gatherings in specific structures.

In fact, being dedicated followers of sects, e.g., of Cephus, is actually denounced.

I call that Churchianity.


There is one holy catholic and apostolic Church, from the days of the apostles unto this day.

  • Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
  • Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
  • And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.
  • And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch.
  • And of the rest durst no man join himself to them: but the people magnified them.
  • And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and women.)


Acts, Catholic chapter five, Protestant verses nine to fourteen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
underlines my own

84 posted on 06/05/2019 6:40:41 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
I think he missed the foundation of being a Christian. Accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior.

He claims he did that for decades,
and then he fell away.
That is the problem with "Once Saved, Always Saved."

  • But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

    ...

  • Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
  • But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
  • For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;


Matthew, Catholic chapter twenty four, Protestant verse thirteen,
Hebrews, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verses twelve to fourteen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

85 posted on 06/05/2019 6:54:14 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: deport

Me...ahhh....me and Mrs. Jones....
We got a thing goin’ on...
We both know it’s wrong...
But the feelins’ much too strong....

Pray for him and her but he’s toast if he loses faith in Christ, cuz of a woman....
Of course...his sin...never seen in history....evah...NOT.
Give it up dude...repent...
Don’t go to hell cuz of a dopamine dump.


86 posted on 06/05/2019 7:02:25 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: af_vet_1981

You don’t do salvation for years. You are or you are not saved. You have or you have not accepted Christ as your Lord and Savior.


87 posted on 06/05/2019 7:18:06 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Scrambler Bob

but my marriage never became what I was promised it would be,”

Interestingly enough, his wife made the same comment.
</sarcasm>


88 posted on 06/05/2019 7:34:35 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Gamecock

but my marriage never became what I was promised it would be
——-
Promised by whom?


89 posted on 06/05/2019 8:10:21 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Gamecock
Sounds like his problem is NOT with Jesus Christ and the Christian faith but with himself. For thousands of years millions of people have lived the faith even to the point of their own martyrdom. Hopefully, he comes to his senses before he dies.

    Little children, it is the last time: and as you have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. But you have an unction from the Holy One, and you know all things. I have not written to you because you know not the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father: he that acknowledges the Son has the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which you have heard from the beginning. If that which you have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, you also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he has promised us, even eternal life. These things have I written to you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which you have received of him stays in you, and you need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teaches you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it has taught you, you shall abide in him. (I John 2:18-27)

90 posted on 06/05/2019 10:18:56 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: mbarker12474

I disagree. Being a sinful human is VERY easy - it’s in our nature. ;o)


91 posted on 06/05/2019 10:31:14 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: Gamecock

Most, if not all, community megachurch leaders are egoist/narcissist types...community organizers are not good preachers


92 posted on 06/05/2019 10:32:23 PM PDT by northislander
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To: cuban leaf
That is why it took us three churches before we found the one that fit us here in Kentucky. The other two were way too dogmatic. I’m more “liberal” in my beliefs as I age. That is, I have learned that much of what we are taught are an interpretation of a translation of an interpretation that is not really what was stated or meant in the original Koine Greek or Hebrew.

Interesting...so are you saying no one can know what the Holy Spirit meant to teach? That no one can really know if Jesus said the things He was supposed to have said? Do you know Greek?

93 posted on 06/05/2019 10:40:43 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: time4good

Amen! Well said.


94 posted on 06/05/2019 10:41:57 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: cuban leaf

Same here - ALL religions are man-made and the thousands of offshoots of Christianity show their fallibility. I opted for non-denominational of a size that I can know the folks who advise the pastor and handle the finances - and who actually spend the “excess” on Christ-oriented missionary and other such endeavors, instead of hoarding it or making the top cadre wealthy......and where every gathering is sure to contain something on Christ no matter the particular topic focus of the day.


95 posted on 06/06/2019 3:15:53 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
You don’t do salvation for years. You are or you are not saved. You have or you have not accepted Christ as your Lord and Savior.

He did. After 40 years, one had a crisis that overcame one. Many just drift away and define their personal faith, such as it is. Where else can one go ? There remains no more sacrifice for sin. One can hope, and pray, for repentance and reconciliation.

  • Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
  • Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
  • And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
  • Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
  • For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
  • But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
  • He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
  • Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
  • For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
  • It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


Hebrews, Catholic chapter ten, Protestant verses twenty two to thirty one,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

96 posted on 06/06/2019 3:54:13 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981

He never truly accepted Christ as his Savior. It is right there in the article. You can easily glean it.

He is one of the empty suit “Christian”, trying to use the religion for his benefit, his gain. Again, pulled that right from his own words.


97 posted on 06/06/2019 5:23:02 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: RichardMoore

I see it as a state of being.


98 posted on 06/06/2019 6:31:03 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Jamestown1630

I think the belief in an actual hell has created far more mental and emotional illness than it has discouraged sin.


I agree. One thing I’ve also discovered, debating Christianity with “anti-Christians” is that it is imperative to them that the bible teaches the concept of eternal burning in hell. It is their primary doorway through which they attack Christianity. When you take that bullet away, they start arguing for ECT ferociously. It’s kinda funny, actually.

BTW, my comment about “I can’t believe in a God who would allow eternal torment of His creation” is the crux of the issue. It’s why many shun Christianity. And, as a Christian, one reason I can’t believe it is that it does not fit with the personality of the God of the Bible. Even the “mean God” of the OT simply wipes out his enemies. There is not a single place in the bible where enemies of God are “tortured” beyond what happens to them in this life before he terminates them.

i.e. I think the closest thing to hell is what non-believers experience here on earth. And to be clear, Paul, while in prison, experienced joy. And all that that implies.


99 posted on 06/06/2019 6:36:02 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: gdc61

> dude really ? being a sinful human ain’t easy ???

being a sinful human and wanting not to be sinful and trying not to be sinful is not easy. being a Christian is not easy.

i needed a few more words in my post. :)

and yes, as you point out, being sinful is of course very easy. :)


100 posted on 06/06/2019 8:09:01 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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