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France begins debate over how to rebuild Notre Dame, starting with a contest to design the spire
The Washington Post ^ | April 17, 2019 | Griff Witte

Posted on 04/18/2019 6:25:53 AM PDT by Texan4Life

But Prime Minister Édouard Philippe upended expectations with an announcement of an international competition to replace the iconic spire that collapsed into Monday’s inferno. He also raised the prospect of a 21st-century twist atop a 12th-century creation.

“This is obviously a huge challenge, a historic responsibility,” Philippe said, noting that the new design would have to be “adapted to technologies and challenges of our times.”

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: contest; france; koranimals; notredame; paris; spire
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To: pbear8
Technically speaking, the Church does not own the building. True, but neither is France putting up the money for the rebuild. The businesses and companies putting up the funds can always withhold them should they not like the chosen design.
21 posted on 04/18/2019 8:34:59 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

One thing about the spire that was there ... it was built in 1855, not in the 12th century. It might be nice to look at old paintings, diagrams, etc., and build a spire that looked like it looked before 1855.


22 posted on 04/18/2019 8:35:18 AM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: Texan4Life

Did they figure out how the fire started?


23 posted on 04/18/2019 8:36:49 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Sergio

This is true and is the danger in accepting their funds. That said, I think there would be a huge outcry if much deviation is planned.


24 posted on 04/18/2019 8:38:57 AM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: Texan4Life

Why? What is wrong with the one that burned?

This whole operation will be a nine-line-free-fall-cluster-fluck. Wait for it.


25 posted on 04/18/2019 8:44:51 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just hava few days that don't suck.)
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To: rainee
Here's the Winner:
26 posted on 04/18/2019 8:46:41 AM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: Texan4Life

There is an excellent documentary (may be hard to find) about the time a fire totally destroyed Dick Cavett’s historic beachfront house in Montauk, Long Island. After debating with his late wife how to rebuild the home, they decided to rebuild it exactly as it was to every last detail, including the French-made stained glass in the front door. They even had the floor boards sanded down to give them the same time-worn feel. That is what must be done at Notre Dame. That and some state of the art security and fire suppression apparatus.


27 posted on 04/18/2019 8:55:20 AM PDT by Atticus
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To: Texan4Life
Regardless of the design, I'd like to see it rebuilt according to modern standards. Steel beams instead of timbers, fireproof roof, etc. Let's make it an example of 21-st century technology.
28 posted on 04/18/2019 9:17:20 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Colonel (Retired) USAF.)
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To: Mathews

The spire will need a laser light for the evening laser light show done with a “techno” soundtrack.


29 posted on 04/18/2019 9:18:39 AM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: pbear8

Agreed, the rebuild should be unapologetically Christian/Catholic.

Said another way, if it were the grand mosque of Paris that had burned down, would we be having any discussions of a rebuild that was more “secular”?


30 posted on 04/18/2019 9:51:51 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Texan4Life

What’s fascinating is how in the world did these middle-age Masons and carpenters build that thing in the 1100s?

I’ve always been fascinated by the middle ages it’s incredible to imagine being alive at that time

There is no electricity no crane nothing except for handtools hammers and things like that


31 posted on 04/18/2019 10:18:00 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Reily
If France means anything to them this is what they will demand!

Too many islamists.

32 posted on 04/18/2019 12:04:44 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

You’re probably right!


33 posted on 04/18/2019 12:14:15 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Campion

That’s a good idea.


34 posted on 04/18/2019 8:05:26 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Truthoverpower

Here’s a sample of what it took in England to become a Master Mason:

Master Masons in medieval England

A medieval Master Mason would be required to undergo what passed for a liberal education in those days. In England, he would leave home at nine or ten years of age already literate in English and French, educated at home or at the petty (junior) school.

From then until the age of fourteen, he would attend monastery or grammar school to learn Latin, or as a page in a knightly household would learn deportment in addition to his studies. Between the ages of fourteen and seventeen he would learn the basic skills of choosing, shaping, and combining stone and then between the ages of 17 and 21, be required to learn by rote a large number of formal problems in geometry.

Three years as a journeyman would often finish with the submission of a masterwork dealing with a set problem in construction or design. At this point, he was considered qualified, but still had a career ladder to climb before attaining the status of Master Mason on a large project.

In his function as architect, the Master Mason probably made his plans for each successive stage of a build in silverpoint on a prepared parchment or board. These would be realised on the ground by using a larger compass than the one used for drafting. Medieval architects are depicted with much larger compasses and squares where they are shown on a building site. Fine detail was transferred from the drawing board by means of wooden templates supplied to the masons.

The Master Masons who appear in record as presiding over major works, such as York Minster, became wealthy and respected. Visiting Master Masons and Master Carpenters sat at high table of monasteries, dining with the abbott.

Wikipedia


35 posted on 04/18/2019 11:15:51 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: ealgeone
I'd imagine the RCC will have input on the rebuild...but so will France.

The EU will have more...

36 posted on 04/18/2019 11:21:33 PM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Texan4Life
Or this....


37 posted on 04/19/2019 1:05:00 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

5G Rules, it seems, even in France.


38 posted on 04/19/2019 9:01:12 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: Campion

I posted earlier that while the spire was “new” and not original, I bet that its style was similar to the existing stuff.

“Well - it’s 1850 - we can’t build things like they did 600 years ago....”


39 posted on 04/19/2019 9:04:33 PM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: Black Agnes

We were sort of joking.... but —

Islamic Minaret Should Replace Notre Dame Spire, Says Architecture Expert

https://www.infowars.com/islamic-minaret-should-replace-notre-dame-spire-says-architecture-expert/

An architecture expert has called for Notre Dame’s fallen spire to be replaced with an Islamic minaret as an apology to Algerian Muslims killed by French police.


40 posted on 04/25/2019 3:00:24 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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