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Notre Dame May Be Rebuilt as a Secular Monument
Intellectual Takeout ^ | 4/17/19 | Rev. Ben Johnson

Posted on 04/17/2019 8:44:46 PM PDT by OddLane

The flames that consumed the spire of Notre Dame and burned the 856-year-old church to its foundations could have been doused by the tears of the faithful. If France heeds calls to rebuild the cathedral as a reflection of what modern “French people want,” the new structure may be flooded by their tears.

The fire, whose origins remain under investigation, was initially reported to have left little more than medieval stones, rose windows, and — make of this what you will — its golden altar cross untouched.

Donations nearing $1 billion have already poured in from around the world, without government compulsion. French President Emmanuel Macron pledged to rebuild the church within five years, a timeline as ambitious (and potentially, as unrealistic) as his plans for the eurozone.

“We will rebuild the cathedral to be even more beautiful,” Macron said...

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; koranimals; notredame; paris; secularization
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1 posted on 04/17/2019 8:44:46 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

Only if there is a revival in France.


2 posted on 04/17/2019 8:50:01 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: OddLane

I questioned this on another thread today. Notre Dame Cathedral had to have been officially consecrated as a Roman Catholic Church. It still offers Catholic services. Even the alter, and its religious artifacts, like the Crown of Thorns were probably consecrated as well. So in order for to it be used for any other purpose than a Catholic Church, it would have to be deconsecrated. It will be interesting to see how Rome would react to any plan to change it. However, I don’t have any faith in the current Pope to do the right thing.


3 posted on 04/17/2019 8:58:52 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: OddLane

Who is in charge of it. Rome or France?


4 posted on 04/17/2019 9:03:36 PM PDT by Persevero (Desmond is not -Amazing- Desmond is -Abused-)
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To: mass55th

It was built by man.
God wanted it.
It will be always the Church of God.
Have faith brother.
God is Great.


5 posted on 04/17/2019 9:04:57 PM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: redshawk

God is Great...Amen!


6 posted on 04/17/2019 9:09:02 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: OddLane
It’s literally a political monument. All cathedrals are.

Those whose religion is politics might consider it so. The normal among us know better. And the world is not, thank God, run by associate professors from Toronto.

7 posted on 04/17/2019 9:10:06 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: redshawk

Wasn’t it built on a Roman temple?


8 posted on 04/17/2019 9:10:37 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: OddLane; BTerclinger
The flames that consumed the spire of Notre Dame and burned the 856-year-old church to its foundations...

Weird stuff:

"Small Country Big Dreams"

מדינה קטנה חלומות גדולים

= 856

9 posted on 04/17/2019 9:12:59 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word.)
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To: OddLane

Macron should be asking Catholics if they want it ‘better’.


10 posted on 04/17/2019 9:15:03 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: mass55th
It's not only a Catholic church, it's the Cathedral of the Archdiocese of Paris. Every diocese has a cathedral church which is the formal seat of the bishop. It's not really an option.

The situation in France is complicated by the fact that the government confiscated (== stole) all of the church buildings during the revolution, and never gave them back So Notre Dame is government property which the government allows the church to use free of charge. Strictly speaking, if the government wanted to bulldoze Notre Dame and put up a mosque next to a strip club, there is nothing the church can do legally to stop them.

11 posted on 04/17/2019 9:19:03 PM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: OddLane

Its a waste of money to do so.

France is not fixing the fundamental problem.

None of europe is.


12 posted on 04/17/2019 9:19:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: OddLane

Since 1905 Notre Dame has been by the French Government. The Catholic Church runs it and pays the staff.


13 posted on 04/17/2019 9:26:33 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: OddLane

On a previous Notre Dame post I said;

They burned a church

They will rebuild a tourist attraction

It will have a Muslim connection


14 posted on 04/17/2019 9:26:50 PM PDT by Cold Heart (Democrats, the tyranny of the masses)
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To: OddLane

I hope not a “secular monument”

It was and is a cathedral and needs to stay that.


15 posted on 04/17/2019 9:27:08 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Campion

Thanks for the information. Henry VIII basically did the same thing when he broke with the church in Rome, and ordered the destruction of all Catholic churches, abbeys, cathedrals, and confiscated the land, and wealth therein.


16 posted on 04/17/2019 9:28:33 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: OddLane

I thought the modern french people want a mosque.


17 posted on 04/17/2019 9:29:48 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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To: OddLane

Just wondering why demonic gargoyles would be placed on a “house of worship”? Will these demonic statues be reunited with the reconstruction?

What have statues of baal, moloch, baphomet and the phoenix have to do with Christianity?

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=%28gargoils+on+top+of+notre+dame+cathedral+france%29&fr=yhs-sz-001&hspart=sz&hsimp=yhs-001&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whataboutclients.com%2Farchives%2Fgargoyles-atop-notre-dame-cathedral-paris.jpg#id=4&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whataboutclients.com%2Farchives%2Fgargoyles-atop-notre-dame-cathedral-paris.jpg&action=click


18 posted on 04/17/2019 9:36:11 PM PDT by patriot torch
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To: Persevero
Who is in charge of it. Rome or France?

The State owns it the church rents it, I read that here so it has to be the fact.

19 posted on 04/17/2019 9:37:11 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: CJ Wolf

Nobody knows for sure. Some scholars say no. Some scholars say yes.
Regardless, this building must be preserved.


20 posted on 04/17/2019 9:42:39 PM PDT by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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