Posted on 03/25/2019 10:38:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Catholic politicians such as New Yorks Governor Andrew Cuomo who support abortion have removed themselves from communion with the Catholic Church, Bishop Joseph Strickland said recently, and they should not present themselves to receive the Eucharist.
Excommunication is a formal declaration by the Church of something thats already happened, the bishop of Tyler, Texas, said. Its a technical term, Bishop Strickland explained, but the reality is Cuomo and others like him have expelled themselves.
Theyre choosing to be out of communion
Andrew Cuomo makes it clear that he doesnt believe Catholic teaching and therefore hes ex-communion. Hes out of communion, Bishop Strickland said. I think to make it clear, and thankfully some of the bishops in other places have taken steps to basically say that, that a politician or anyone who says, I dont agree with the Catholic Church on basic critical issues, theyre choosing to be out of communion.
Thats what the Protestant Reformation did 500 years ago, he said. People stepped away from agreeing with what the Church proclaims is divinely revealed truth.
When you do that, youre out of communion, continued Bishop Strickland, and I think we need to be clear that people like Andrew Cuomo are not in communion with the Catholic Church, and therefore should not be receiving the Body of Christ.
Catholics call it communion because its Christ himself, Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity Whom theyre receiving, and none of us is worthy, the bishop said on a recent episode of the Love Will End Abortion radio program out of Rochester, New York, but we are challenged to seek the most worthiness that we can to avoid sin and to live lives of virtue so that were as worthy as possible.
Out of communion with the Church
Asked his thoughts about the confusion many Catholics feel over the fact that Cuomo has not been excommunicated for vigorously supporting New Yorks radical abortion expansion in January, Strickland said he shares the frustration.
The bishop had posted a tweet later in the month saying the video showing New York State legislators cheering at the passage of the extreme abortion law was a scene from Hell.
Stepping away from the technical aspect of excommunication, the bishop said, I think we need to just say that Andrew Cuomo and, sadly, too many other so-called Catholic politicians have stepped out of communion with the Church.
I would hope every bishop agrees with what he said
Asked about the statement released in the last few weeks by Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, Kansas, explaining that Catholic politicians who vote for and persist in supporting intrinsically evil acts like abortion should not present themselves to receive Holy Communion, Strickland said he was pleased with the declaration.
Naumann issued the statement February 19 via the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops website in response to New Yorks Reproductive Health Act and similar legislative efforts in other states.
I made it clear that I fully support what he said, added Strickland, and I would hope every bishop agrees with what he said as chair of the Pro-Life Committee for the USCCB.
We all have to wake up before its too late
One good thing about the whole episode with the New York legislature and other states following, he said, is that people are waking up to the reality of abortion.
I think people are saying and giving more thought to what abortion really is, said Strickland. Its amazing how the Lord works. Even in the midst of evil, His light and grace is always there, and thankfully, I think more people are waking up, but we all have to wake up before its too late.
He went on to say ultrasound and other technologies would be instrumental in helping to end abortion, because they make it impossible to deny the humanity of preborn children.
A woman absolutely has a right to her body, the bishop said, but that child has a right to his body as well.
He believes that the Church and society have made a lot of progress in helping the woman who makes the right choice. Acknowledging that there are a lot of challenges that come with embracing life, he thinks fathers need to be brought into the picture more.
Thats a lot of whats broken in our world, is that there had to be a father there, even in the circumstances where in vitro is used, said Strickland.
To deny that or ignore this reality is part of the whole problem, he said, because if men are not being responsible with the children theyve helped bring into the world, then the entire responsibility is put on the womens shoulders.
I think thats another way that we can promote the sanctity of life, is really calling men to step up and be responsible for the child that theyve helped to conceive, he added.
The Texas bishop is hands-on when it comes to being present on the sidewalk outside abortion centers in his area, taking part in the current 40 Days for Life vigil locally.
We have one Planned Parenthood center here in Tyler, and weve been peacefully praying there with people from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m., said Bishop Strickland. We started Ash Wednesday, and were continuing. Im getting out there as much as I can because I live just a few blocks from where theyre gathering, so I try to stop each day and pray a rosary with the people that are there.
The noted and successful pro-life outreach is another effective way to battle abortion, he said.
In that witness, in many ways its changing, converting one heart at a time, the bishop said, and weve already seen people that have had their eyes opened to some of the issues that are anti-life just by the prayerful, peaceful witness of the people involved in this 40 Days for Life.
Sex has become everything except what God intended it to be
Ultimately, he continued, the hearts of the people of God must be changed to recognize that life is sacred.
I think it has to go deeper than that into the issue of chastity and all the brokenness of sexuality in our world today, which is rampant and obviously in the life of the Church herself, Strickland said. Sex has become everything except what God intended it to be, and abortion is caught up in that. One of the reasons for abortion is that too many people are conceiving children without ever having a thought of marriage or any of Gods plan for how children should come into the world.
Weve come to a moment where weve got to be very clear
Things were different when he was ordained back in 1985, he remarked, with much more of a go-along-to-get-along kind of culture that did not encourage speaking boldly about what the Church teaches.
But I think weve come to a moment in the life of the world, of human society, and of this nation, and of the Church in this nation, where weve got to be very clear, the bishop said, because the ambiguity thats been in place for many decades, is were seeing, were reaping that whirlwind now of not really speaking clearly. That lack of clarity has prompted people to adopt a lifestyle that is diametrically opposed to what the Christian life calls us to.
The rampant immorality of today makes the task before the Churchs bishops all the greater, he told the pro-life radio program.
I think as bishops we have a greater responsibility than ever to speak the truth with love, with compassion, and seeking always Divine Mercy, said Strickland, but not letting it be diluted to simply being human mercy that kind of leaves out the issue of turning from sin, repenting, and following the light of Christ.
He sees pro-life efforts as part of the very foundation of evangelizing the world.
I think weve got to go back to that foundation of the sanctity of life and listening to Gods plan for sexuality and for the procreation of children, said Strickland, for bringing a man and a woman together in that unitive aspect, that really brings them a glorious life, with all the challenges of marriage but its Gods plan that they complete each other, that they truly live a complementarity that is beautiful.
Catholics have got to be His Church more effectively, he said, and go back to the foundation and rebuild.
So much of that has been lost, Strickland said, but I think we are full of hope. We have Christ with us; He promised that He would continue to be with His Church.
Cuomo is a Godless individual, so it should not make any difference to him.
Just to clarify a point: The Bishop of Tyler, Texas does not have the authority to formally excommunicate a New York politician. That authority falls to any of several Bishops in New York. Too bad none of ‘em have the guts to actually do it.
This is how excommunication works. The bishop states it very clearly The person in the state of mortal sin is out of communion with the Church. They have to go to confession and repent- to turn away from the sinful behavior
The thing about these public figures promoting abortion is that the priest knows they are in mortal sin as well as causing others to sin. The priest by administering communion to them becomes an active participant in defiling
The Eucharist.
And he'll have someone secretly filming it as well!
Indeed, Cuomo may identify as "Catholic" as political narrative for a few remaining Irish/Italian Catholic chumps in NY who still believe him, or care.
Otherwise, I doubt he's has been even inside a Church in 40 years.
I’m ok with giving him last rites now then excommunicating his cadaver.
He found the inside of a church for his father’s funeral and his daughter’s wedding to a Kennedy resulting in divorce. Other thsn that I think he fears being embarrassed and there is talk among fellow alums at Archnishop Molloy HS about removing his picture from the wall of distinguished alums.
Does Pelosi fall into the same category?
send this to Dolan or too the bishop overseeing his residence.
yes
BS. Cuomo did not excommunicate himself. That’s for the bishops to do, had they the simple moral courage they exhort parishioners to exhibit.
Maybe, though there are other areas into which we wish she’d fall.
If I showed up for Mass with a Big Mac and ate it in plain sight of everyone during the Homily, I dare say there is not a Priest anywhere who would serve me the Eucharest.
So why it is any different when Cuomo goes out and visibly supports abortion in concrete and public ways?
So what I want to know is why people like Cuomo and Pelosi, are not actually EXCOMMUNICATED from the Catholic Church? My guess is that the answer is MONEY! Like the Catholic Church of Old, they are still “selling indulgences!” But hey, the Catholics have a lot of other churches that do the same thing, because at the end of the day, the bottom line is that they are really just businesses that are selling “salvation,” whatever that is!
First of all, the Catholic Church is not the cultural force it was, even just a few decades ago. Plus the Church hierarchy has its own perverts and hypocrites to deal with. Moreover, it has conformed to our present snowflake age, and doesn't want to appear "angry" or judgmental. Rather, the Church will say - "well, we can't know the state of Andrew Cuomo's soul, so let's not be too harsh in our judgements."
Even the Pope says things like that, so what do you expect from a Bishop in a place like New York?
“well, we can’t know the state of Andrew Cuomo’s soul, so let’s not be too harsh in our judgements.”
I think what bugs me about statements like that is that the assumption is that Cuomo is on his own to make a decision that may cost him eternity. The leadership would rather let his soul go to hell, than call him to account for what he is doing and try to get him to repent. The scary thing is: I don’t think they take Hell seriously. They are killing him with their kindness, along with whomever else is thinking the same way he does, and assuming that God will be ok with it.
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