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Pastor Rick Warren Talks to New York Priests About Maintaining Moral Integrity
Catholic New York ^ | 6/20/2018 | JOHN WOODS

Posted on 01/28/2019 1:54:04 PM PST by Gamecock

Nearly 800 New York Catholic priests received a message about how to maintain their moral integrity from Pastor Rick Warren, who used Scripture passages and his experiences from 40 years as an Evangelical Christian pastor, to speak personally to fellow pastors.

His talk, “Maintaining the Moral Integrity of the Ministry to Which God Has Called Us,” was delivered during the archdiocese’s biennial Safe Environment Convocation at St. Joseph’s Seminary in Dunwoodie June 6-7.

“Brothers, what we do matters more than what anybody else does in the world,” said Pastor Warren at the outset of his presentation.

“That’s because the only thing that’s going to last on the planet is the Church of Jesus Christ.”

He said the job description for a pastor can be boiled down to three basic criteria: having a message worth remembering, a lifestyle worth considering and a faith worth imitating.

“That’s our calling,” he said simply.

Pastor Warren, author of the best-selling book “The Purpose Driven Life,” is the founder and longtime senior pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., one of the largest religious congregations in the United States.

The pastor told the archdiocesan and religious order priests before him that, in his four decades of ministry, he has conducted training sessions with 480,000 pastors in 160 countries. He noted that there were at least “a dozen homilies” in the handout materials he was providing. “I willingly give this away to you…Use whatever you can. We are all in this together.”

The context for his discussion with the priests was that Satan has no new temptations. The three worldly temptations are outlined in 1 John 2:15-17, which says, “Do not love the world or the things of the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, sensual lust, enticement for the eyes and a pretentious way of life, is not from Father but is from the world. Yet the world and its enticement are passing away. But whoever does the will of God remains forever.”

The temptations can be boiled down to passions (pleasure), possessions and positions (power, prestige).

Antidotes to the three temptations are integrity, generosity and humility.

To illustrate the importance of the virtue of integrity in a pastor’s life, Pastor Warren said, “All leadership is built on trust, not title.” The first thing that happens when you go to apply for a loan is the bank runs a credit check to see if you are credit-worthy, he said.

“The people in my congregation do a credit check on me 24 hours a day,” the pastor said. “If I betray their trust, then I forfeit my right to lead them.”

Early in his presentation, Pastor Warren told the priests, “We need all of you to make it to the finish line,” with their integrity completely intact.

Later, he gave them an eight-step guide to protect themselves so they can accomplish that goal. He suggested sharing it with their staffs and parish leaders.

The third item on the list was to “know” their personal patterns of temptation, so they can be avoided. The priests were given a checklist of questions to consider:

• When am I most tempted?

• Where am I most tempted?

• Who is with me when I am most tempted?

• What temporary benefit do I get if I give in?

• How do I feel right before I am tempted?

Pastor Warren shared openly about “the worst day of my life,” when his youngest son, Matthew, committed suicide in 2013. The Cardinal Spellman Center, where the convocation was held, became pin-drop quiet, as he told the priests about the 16 weeks he went without preaching or teaching. He said he spent 12 hours a day alone with God.

“If I hadn’t handled my grief well, I would have been very vulnerable to temptations,” the pastor explained.

Pastor Warren, speaking briefly with CNY following his talk, said Christians must stick together in a world that is taking on an increasingly secular outlook. “We’re on the same team,” he said. “The enemy is not other believers.”

Father Francis Samoylo, pastor of St. Columbanus parish in Cortlandt Manor, said he likes the strategies Pastor Warren offered for dealing with temptation.

“We all have temptations,” Father Samoylo said. “The idea of refocusing and replacing that temptation with something else was good. You think about resisting temptation, but that keeps the temptation in your presence.”

Msgr. Leslie Ivers, director of ongoing priestly formation in the archdiocese, called Pastor Warren’s presentation “the best talk we’ve ever had.”

“He loves Christ and he loves the Church. That’s what we all need to be about.”


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1 posted on 01/28/2019 1:54:05 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

All modern religious roads lead back to a Roman/Babylon the Great, mother of harlots. Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, and all the TV Faith preachers will lead the way. Jesus said, “Come out of her, my people and be not a partaker of her plagues...”


2 posted on 01/28/2019 2:02:35 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Gamecock

SO …………. this guy is preaching about “ maintain their moral integrity”?

To a State that just declared open season on murdering babies!


3 posted on 01/28/2019 2:05:03 PM PST by EnglishOnly (eWFight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; EnglishOnly

I think if you have listened to Rick Warren as much as I have you will clearly notice a difference. He is true to God and what we need to do and is very different than the others you listed. He is also in the lions den telling them what needs to be done.


4 posted on 01/28/2019 2:09:11 PM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: Gamecock

Good old Lukewarm Rick Warren, apostle of Peter Drucker.

It’s all about the church growth, baby!


5 posted on 01/28/2019 2:16:13 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: New Perspective

In the Lions Den?


6 posted on 01/28/2019 2:17:02 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Gamecock

This was the guy so craving for public attention that he got rolled by Obama.


7 posted on 01/28/2019 2:45:11 PM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Pelham

Didn’t he tell his flock that Obama was the “real deal”?


8 posted on 01/28/2019 2:45:35 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: New Perspective
I have listened to him often. There are a myriad of problems with his teaching once you get past the folksy "niceness" of his presentation.

1. Purpose Driven mentions not one word of repentance! (Jesus sais, "unless you repent..."

2. Purpose Driven says, "avoid prophesy, it is a diversion" (Jesus says, "watch and pray that you might be counted worthy to escape the things coming on the earth!")

3. Rick Warren's peace plan makes no attempt at "evangelism"!?

4. Rick Warren's books use up to 12 different versions of the Bible, some of them paraphrased or apostate versions (as though they are all equal or not important)

There are many other areas where he falls short of the Gospel...and I hate to say this, but Rick Warren is aptly named. As one of the leading evangelicals in the world, he multiplying the number of unclean in the Church; people who see no need to repent, or understand prophesy and the Gospel of the Kingdom, or know the true Prince of Peace, or read the engrafted Word of God which is able to save souls. The following is a video explaining his heresies...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uz1Fh8i3ok
9 posted on 01/28/2019 2:52:40 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Those quotes seem to differ from what I have heard him state. I think he is much better than most out there, is there a perfect one? Yes, and he died on the cross but we can still gather the best of what someone offers. Is having someone of no faith turn to God because of something Rick says better than having no belief in God? I would think so.:)


10 posted on 01/28/2019 3:22:50 PM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: New Perspective

You make my point. Someone cannot truly turn to Jesus Christ unless they understand their sin and repent! and believe God’s Word...and be willing to confess your belief...etc. False conversion is the great deception of our day! As Jesus said, “broad is the way that leads to destrucion”, and “when the son of man comes, will he find faith?”


11 posted on 01/28/2019 3:40:01 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: EnglishOnly
"SO …………. this guy is preaching about “ maintain their moral integrity”? To a State"

Im curious. What gave you the impression he was preaching to a State?

12 posted on 01/28/2019 3:49:38 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Jan_Sobieski

So if what you say is true then tell us who is speaking all the truth these days?


13 posted on 01/28/2019 3:54:02 PM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: Gamecock

Warren preaches Chrislam.


14 posted on 01/28/2019 4:07:41 PM PST by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Gamecock

Rick Warren...the man who prayed to “isa” (Islamic “jesus” who tricked someone else into dying on cross, and will come back to slaughter Christians who don’t convert to islam) at Obama’s inauguration.


15 posted on 01/28/2019 4:18:42 PM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: Gamecock

Slick Warren. Emerging Church. Fashionable Heresy.


16 posted on 01/28/2019 5:02:00 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: New Perspective

I have been in ministry. I cannot agree. I consider him an insidious heretic.


17 posted on 01/28/2019 5:03:09 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

“Didn’t he tell his flock that Obama was the “real deal”?”

Don’t know for certain but that wouldn’t surprise me. A whole lot of Social Gospel can be found in Rick Warrenism.


18 posted on 01/28/2019 5:04:59 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: New Perspective

The ones who are most faithful are not likely to be famous, wealthy salesmen - none of the Apostles were.


19 posted on 01/28/2019 5:05:36 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Pelham

“”It’s all about the church growth, baby!””

I have to agree with you. I was waiting to read something about “sin”....did he take the priests to task for not protesting NATIONWIDE about Cuomo’s latest bill in NY State? Did he implore the bishops etc., to excommunicate the likes of Cuomo, Biden, Pelosi, Kennedys and other politicians who support abortion? Or would he consider it “not my job” like Bishop Dolan did this weekend?

We’ve attended his “church” but have to say certainly not many times. We went thinking it would change but it never did. The whole thing is set up like a Hollywood film studio and music you would kill yourself to get away from. If I can’t describe a sermon I heard in church then I’m wasting my time. I can’t describe a “hearts and flowers” sermon I heard from any pastor...

The outside patio area is crowded with booths and pamphlets where you can choose classes that you need for SELF IMPROVEMENT on every subject under the sun.

That was in the ‘80’s/’90’s and never did he preach about sin. He knows his congregation is full of people like “OC Housewives” who bragged years ago about being members of Saddleback and why would he want to lose parishioners by calling attention to their sins? Have you ever heard the language those women (?) use?

He’s certainly come a long way but not one I want to participate in. When I attend church, I want to hear “fire and brimstone”.....


20 posted on 01/28/2019 5:12:50 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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