Posted on 01/25/2019 10:06:26 PM PST by ebb tide
NEW YORK, January 25, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) Archbishop of New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan responded to calls for New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's excommunication for his role in enshrining a fundamental right to virtually-unlimited abortion in the state, saying via a spokesperson that excommunication is "not an appropriate response."
Asked by CNN Religion Editor Dan Burke about the calls for Gov. Cuomo to be excommunicated over New York's new abortion bill, Dolans spokesman said he would not discuss any individual, but that excommunication should not be used as a weapon.
Too often, I fear, those who call for someone's excommunication do so out of anger or frustration, Dolan's spokesman said in the statement.
Two Catholic bishops, however, are calling for the excommunication of Cuomo for championing and signing the so-called Reproductive Health Act (RHA), earlier this week on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade. The radical abortion bill codified legal abortion up to birth in New York state law, an act of preservation by pro-aborts should Roe v. Wade be overturned by the Supreme Court.
Knoxville, Tennessee, Bishop Richard Stika and Tyler, Texas, Bishop Joseph Strickland both indicated that if Cuomo lived in their jurisdiction they would take action. Strickland urged Cuomos ordinaries to do so.
Someone asked me today if I would issue an excommunication of a Catholic Governor under my jurisdiction if the Governor did the same as in New York, Stika tweeted Thursday afternoon. I think I might do it for any Catholic legislator under my jurisdiction who voted for the bill as well as the Governor.
Enough is enough, said Stika. Excommunication is to be not a punishment but to bring the person back into the Church. It's like medicine for them. But this vote is so hideous and vile that it warrants the act. But thankfully I am not in that position. Very sad.
Bishop Strickland followed up in the early hours of Friday, and mincing no words he said the radical abortion law amounts to legalized "infanticide."
Im with Bishop Stika, he said. Im not in a position to take action regarding legislation in New York but I implore bishops who are to speak out forcefully. In any sane society this is called INFANTICIDE!!!!!!!!!!
Catholic commentator Thomas Peters said that Dolan's statement indicates that some Church leaders are more concerned about public image than shepherding souls.
We dont want to excommunicate people who will wear excommunication as a public badge of honor is an admission that leaders of the church see themselves as PR managers not the shepherds of souls.
Withholding excommunication when it should be applied is actually uncharitable! https://t.co/aZyIyzRRO6 Thomas Peters (@AmericanPapist) January 25, 2019
After years of campaigning by pro-abortion activists, the New York state legislature - now under Democrat super majority since last Novembers midterm elections - passed the so-called Reproductive Health Act (RHA) Tuesday, preserving a supposed fundamental right to abortion in state law and eliminating protections for the unborn until birth.
Washington D.C. priest Monsignor Charles Pope also called for Cuomo to face penalties.
There comes a time when something is so egregious and boldly sinful that it must be met with strong ecclesial and canonical penalties and remedies, Pope wrote Wednesday at the National Catholic Register.
After detailing of the terrible bill, Pope said, Even worse, the Catholic governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, not only signed the bill on the 46th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, but decreed a celebration.
Note: This story is developing. LifeSiteNews will continue to update as developments occur.
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Full statement by Cardinal Dolan's spokesman
I will not discuss any individual. Anything that follows is a statement of some general principles, and should not be considered to be a comment on any specific person.
First, excommunication should not be used as a weapon. Too often, I fear, those who call for someone's excommunication do so out of anger or frustration.
Second, notable canon lawyers have said that, under canon law, excommunication is not an appropriate response to a politician who supports or votes for legislation advancing abortion.
Third, from a pastoral perspective, if a pastor - and a bishop is certainly a pastor of a diocese - knows of a grave situation involving a parishioner, it is his duty to address that issue personally and directly with the parishioner. That was the approach of Cardinal O'Connor and Cardinal Egan (both of whom I served), and it is Cardinal Dolan's approach as well.
Fourth, and finally, from a strategic perspective, I do not believe that excommunication would be effective as many politicians would welcome it as a sign of their refusal to be "bullied by the Church", thinking it would therefore give them a political advantage. (See, for example, the case of Bishop Leo Maher and Lucy Killea).
How big a pile does 70,000,000 dead babies make? Enough to reach the Throne of God?
Cowardly kowtowing is the only response Cardinal Dolan knows.
A muslim secular humanist and a mormon and the man with them claims to be a figure of the Catholic Church
of course it is. Repeated offenses with no intention of repentance.
Pedophiles and Baby Murderers! Is this who the Catholic Church lionizes these days?
And they must have a tenure scheme just like most Universities. Once you make it, your there for life.
Societies institutions are indeed crumbling.
Did you miss out on all or any decent catechisis??
We were all received into the Body of Christ, His Church, not into an Heirarchy of Wolves at the top scattering His Sheep. Two entirely different bred beings, one Divine and the other the Prince of the Air. Surely, you’ve heard of the Great Apostasy?
I “ain’t” scattering. The Wolves aren’t running us ALL off, and many of us wouldn’t give these jackals a Win if it killed us. God forbid. Besides, we are supposed to Martyr Up, on the Way of the Cross, not scatter with the Air Prince.
Find a TLM and rest your wearied soul from the chaos. Let us die trying.
Kind of grisly pics there. Why would anyone who has forged their personal walk with God over the course of their life want to associate with doughy “clergy” who hobnob with corrupt politicians?
OMG....he's poo pooing MURDER of a baby to be as worse as someones anger or frustration.....
I take it that he thinks excommunication is a bit harsh for legalizing baby murder?
It should be done if the RC church has any moral authority left. Those placed under interdict could care less and it would be spun by the Satan’s spawn media as persecution of good people.
Revelation 18 says “Come out of her MY people.” The Harlot is riding the Beast. Jesus is coming back soon and the Whore will be left behind. She fornicates with the kings of the earth.
Satan infests all sects of Christianity. It must be purged.
what's left is we flawed, struggling masses trying to get thru this life.....
and now, our church has failed us....
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