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| 01-09-19
| Msgr. Charles Pope
Posted on 01/19/2019 11:33:40 AM PST by Salvation
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To: Salvation
yep, what about the children, often the victims of divorce..how about their happiness?
I know someone who is on his 4th marriage and still serves as a lector and receives Holy Communion every week..
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posted on
01/19/2019 7:09:43 PM PST
by
Coleus
(Vivat Jesus)
To: RooRoobird20
But you did the right thing.
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posted on
01/19/2019 7:12:56 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Coleus
Fourth marriage-wow! Is his last name Kennedy? Biden?
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posted on
01/19/2019 7:14:59 PM PST
by
RooRoobird20
("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves."the rest were)
To: RooRoobird20
I dont have the verses memorized, but Jesus said divorce was not a sin if there is adultery or abandonment.
The exception to sin was for the case of πορνεία (fornication), not μοιχεία (adultery).
- When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
- And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
- And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
- Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.
...
- He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
- And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Deuteronomy, Catholic chapter twenty four, Protestant verses one to four,
Matthew, Catholic chapter nineteen, Protestant verses eight to nine,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
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posted on
01/19/2019 7:41:28 PM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
To: Iscool
From my 18 years in a Baptist parsonage, and four years in Seminary ... I do recall:
Luke 16:18 - Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
Romans 7:2-3 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
To: RooRoobird20
Like I said why would the CC feel they have to intervene and annul a marriage?
Matt 5:31-32 clearly says adultery is legitimate reason for divorce.
But yet you waited three years for the CC to dither around?
Why did you feel you needed their approval and permission to do something that is clearly Biblical?
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posted on
01/20/2019 3:36:26 AM PST
by
marajade
(Skywalker)
To: Iscool; MayflowerMadam; Salvation
See the link at Post #54.
FWIW, few people you will ever meet have a truly Biblical viewpoint or understanding of how God regards marriage and what one’s options are to get any support from Him in a sexual union.
Most marital counselors will give you bad, unscriptural advice. This thread is full of it.
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posted on
01/20/2019 4:20:23 AM PST
by
imardmd1
(Fiat Lux)
To: imardmd1
68
posted on
01/20/2019 4:23:51 AM PST
by
marajade
(Skywalker)
To: ChildOfThe60s
I try to avoid vulgarities, too. However the use of vulgarities has no bearing on the validity of one’s proposition. To say you lose an argument because you went there, is silly, if not to say BS. LOL
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posted on
01/20/2019 4:35:20 AM PST
by
sparklite2
(Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
To: Lurker
circa 1955...
As Elizabeth Taylor said as she got out
of the shower, “I feel like a new man.”
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posted on
01/20/2019 4:37:39 AM PST
by
sparklite2
(Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
To: marajade
Matt 5:31-32 clearly says adultery is legitimate reason for divorce.
False; read it again
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posted on
01/20/2019 4:49:11 AM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
To: RooRoobird20
The Catholic Church will grant annulments because abandonment, adultery, ...
False; adultery is not grounds for an annulment.
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posted on
01/20/2019 4:53:57 AM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
To: af_vet_1981
Matthew 5:31-32 (NIV)
Divorce
31 It has been said, Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.
32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
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posted on
01/20/2019 4:54:07 AM PST
by
newfreep
("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
To: newfreep
Did you notice the Greek word was for adultery is in the passage, and not for the exception ? Adultery is specified as the result of divorce and remarriage, not as a valid excuse to do it. Adultery is not fornication (porneia).
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posted on
01/20/2019 4:57:41 AM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
To: Campion
Finally a word from someone who understands how things work, not how they think it works.
To: Joe Bfstplk
It isn’t unforgivable. It’s the second marriage, resulting in constant adultery that isn’t repented from that causes the problem.
To: sparklite2
I didn’t say he lost the argument, all I said was he couldn’t have the argument with me :-)
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posted on
01/20/2019 6:22:18 AM PST
by
ChildOfThe60s
(If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
To: ChildOfThe60s
You got what your assinine and arrogant tactic got on its knees and begged for. Here you are, after twice failing to argue the point, ginning up a technicality to wave around. For all of my life the Left have been using precisely your tactic to tear down what they hate. You ought to be more thoughtful about whose crap you pickup and throw around.
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posted on
01/20/2019 6:23:37 AM PST
by
TalBlack
(It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
To: af_vet_1981
Adultery/fornication (chronic) by my first husband was the reason my annulment was granted in 2004 by the Archdiocese of New Mexico and the diocese of Phoenix.
Youre wrong in this case. I have the paperwork to prove it.
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posted on
01/20/2019 7:31:02 AM PST
by
RooRoobird20
("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves."the rest were)
To: af_vet_1981
Except it be for adultery. How can you read it any other way?
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posted on
01/20/2019 7:58:56 AM PST
by
marajade
(Skywalker)
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