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OSV.com ^ | 01-09-19 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 01/19/2019 11:33:40 AM PST by Salvation

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To: Salvation

yep, what about the children, often the victims of divorce..how about their happiness?

I know someone who is on his 4th marriage and still serves as a lector and receives Holy Communion every week..


61 posted on 01/19/2019 7:09:43 PM PST by Coleus (Vivat Jesus)
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To: RooRoobird20

But you did the right thing.


62 posted on 01/19/2019 7:12:56 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Coleus

Fourth marriage—-wow! Is his last name Kennedy? Biden?


63 posted on 01/19/2019 7:14:59 PM PST by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves."the rest were)
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To: RooRoobird20
I don’t have the verses memorized, but Jesus said divorce was not a sin if there is adultery or abandonment.

The exception to sin was for the case of πορνεία (fornication), not μοιχεία (adultery).

  • When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
  • And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
  • And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
  • Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

    ...

  • He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
  • And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Deuteronomy, Catholic chapter twenty four, Protestant verses one to four,
Matthew, Catholic chapter nineteen, Protestant verses eight to nine,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

64 posted on 01/19/2019 7:41:28 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Iscool

From my 18 years in a Baptist parsonage, and four years in Seminary ... I do recall:

“Luke 16:18 - Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.”

“Romans 7:2-3 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

“So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.”


65 posted on 01/19/2019 8:15:53 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: RooRoobird20

Like I said why would the CC feel they have to intervene and annul a marriage?

Matt 5:31-32 clearly says adultery is legitimate reason for divorce.

But yet you waited three years for the CC to dither around?

Why did you feel you needed their approval and permission to do something that is clearly Biblical?


66 posted on 01/20/2019 3:36:26 AM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: Iscool; MayflowerMadam; Salvation

See the link at Post #54.

FWIW, few people you will ever meet have a truly Biblical viewpoint or understanding of how God regards marriage and what one’s options are to get any support from Him in a sexual union.

Most marital counselors will give you bad, unscriptural advice. This thread is full of it.


67 posted on 01/20/2019 4:20:23 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Your link doesn’t work


68 posted on 01/20/2019 4:23:51 AM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I try to avoid vulgarities, too. However the use of vulgarities has no bearing on the validity of one’s proposition. To say you lose an argument because you went there, is silly, if not to say BS. LOL


69 posted on 01/20/2019 4:35:20 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Lurker

circa 1955...

As Elizabeth Taylor said as she got out
of the shower, “I feel like a new man.”


70 posted on 01/20/2019 4:37:39 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: marajade
Matt 5:31-32 clearly says adultery is legitimate reason for divorce.

False; read it again
71 posted on 01/20/2019 4:49:11 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: RooRoobird20
The Catholic Church will grant annulments because abandonment, adultery, ...

False; adultery is not grounds for an annulment.
72 posted on 01/20/2019 4:53:57 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981

Matthew 5:31-32 (NIV)

Divorce

31 “It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.

32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.


73 posted on 01/20/2019 4:54:07 AM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: newfreep

Did you notice the Greek word was for adultery is in the passage, and not for the exception ? Adultery is specified as the result of divorce and remarriage, not as a valid excuse to do it. Adultery is not fornication (porneia).


74 posted on 01/20/2019 4:57:41 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Campion

Finally a word from someone who understands how things work, not how they think it works.


75 posted on 01/20/2019 5:18:35 AM PST by nobamanomore
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To: Joe Bfstplk

It isn’t unforgivable. It’s the second marriage, resulting in constant adultery that isn’t repented from that causes the problem.


76 posted on 01/20/2019 5:20:21 AM PST by nobamanomore
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To: sparklite2

I didn’t say he lost the argument, all I said was he couldn’t have the argument with me :-)


77 posted on 01/20/2019 6:22:18 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

You got what your assinine and arrogant tactic got on its knees and begged for. Here you are, after twice failing to argue the point, ginning up a technicality to wave around. For all of my life the Left have been using precisely your tactic to tear down what they hate. You ought to be more thoughtful about whose crap you pickup and throw around.


78 posted on 01/20/2019 6:23:37 AM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: af_vet_1981

Adultery/fornication (chronic) by my first husband was the reason my annulment was granted in 2004 by the Archdiocese of New Mexico and the diocese of Phoenix.

You’re wrong in this case. I have the paperwork to prove it.


79 posted on 01/20/2019 7:31:02 AM PST by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves."the rest were)
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To: af_vet_1981

Except it be for adultery. How can you read it any other way?


80 posted on 01/20/2019 7:58:56 AM PST by marajade (Skywalker)
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