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Andy Stanley says Ten Commandments don't apply to Christians
Christian Post ^ | 01/10/2019 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 01/10/2019 8:11:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
(all except the command to observe the Sabbath day).

It is commanded by the fact that Jesus (our Example) kept it. He also said "IF ye love Me, keep my Commandments". No reason not to keep it except to expose yourself to persecution of the world (like Jesus and His Disciples were).

61 posted on 01/10/2019 8:53:31 AM PST by BipolarBob (God bless America - except for California.)
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To: Ancesthntr
“17 Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

You are 100% correct. I was going to quote the same passage if no one beat me to it. The Ten Commandments still apply to us - the Bible includes both OT and NT for a reason.

62 posted on 01/10/2019 8:53:33 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: SeekAndFind

Clown at pulpit


63 posted on 01/10/2019 8:54:36 AM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: SeekAndFind

What an ATHEIST IDIOT!!


64 posted on 01/10/2019 8:54:47 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: jjotto

He advocates the Sermon on the Mount, which is a higher law than the Ten Commandments. Not only do you NOT commit adultery, you don’t even LOOK upon a woman with lust.


65 posted on 01/10/2019 8:56:13 AM PST by Dr. Zzyzx
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To: gibsonguy

whats your point.


66 posted on 01/10/2019 8:57:08 AM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: rdl6989

I may be wrong , but nowhere does he claim we’re not to obey the commandments. He merely state that we should not use them as a model of our salvation. Salvation came through Christ on the cross, not through the keeping of the laws. The new covenant accomplished what the old covenent could never do. We are saved by grace, not works of our own. This is heresy? I don’t read KJV, and I don’t base my salvation on my following of the old covenant. I guess I’m a heretic.


67 posted on 01/10/2019 8:58:01 AM PST by Joshua (who is going to make up the)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think he is mistaken.


68 posted on 01/10/2019 8:58:34 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Olog-hai

I believe that the study you implicitly referenced seems to verify the story of Noah, since we all genetically descended from just two people. The study implied the two were all that was left after some great calamity, say, a flood, maybe?


69 posted on 01/10/2019 9:00:19 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Ya lyublyu kovfefe!)
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To: aimhigh
And in that passage, Jesus said the law would pass away when all was fulfilled.

No, He never said that. The Law stands forever (Psalms 111:7,8). The Old Covenant expired and the New Covenant replaced it but the Law remains the same. The only law that was abolished and nailed to the cross was the law of ordinances and ceremonies which did nothing to save us but POINTED to to the sacrifice of Christ. Do not conflate the two totally different laws.

70 posted on 01/10/2019 9:00:33 AM PST by BipolarBob (God bless America - except for California.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have it from contemporary Jewish authority that there were originally 15 commandments.
;-)


71 posted on 01/10/2019 9:01:12 AM PST by Ignatz (Winner of a prestigious 1960 Y-chromosome award!)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx

People seem to not notice or just outright ignore that.

The Sermon on the Mount sets the bar far higher than the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments deal with outward actions. The Sermon on the Mount gets into the intent of the Law and the intent of the heart.

The Pharisees who kept the outward observance of the Law, and Jesus had some pretty harsh words for them. Vipers and white washed tombs full of dead men’s bones comes to mind.


72 posted on 01/10/2019 9:02:03 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: SeekAndFind

Which one of the commandments does he want his neighbor to ignore, or his lawyer, or the man counting out his change at the various stores, etc.


73 posted on 01/10/2019 9:02:14 AM PST by odawg
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To: SeekAndFind

Matthew chapters 5-7 are no less “Old Covenant” than the Ten Commandments. There is no redeeming blood there, and the New required the death of the Testator. All of our Lord’s earthly ministry to the Resurrection is directly cross-referenced to the Old Testament prophesy and still under the LAW of Moses.


74 posted on 01/10/2019 9:02:22 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: Ignatz

You are talking about the esteemed Biblical rabbi Mel Brooks of course.


75 posted on 01/10/2019 9:03:14 AM PST by BipolarBob (God bless America - except for California.)
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The only law that was abolished and nailed to the cross was the law of ordinances and ceremonies

Show me a scripture that says that. Paul's example in Romans 7 is the tenth commandment.

76 posted on 01/10/2019 9:03:50 AM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . ")
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To: Ancesthntr

He’s also a liberal on many social issues in particular homosexual sin


77 posted on 01/10/2019 9:04:09 AM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wouldn’t listen to any clown who calls himself a preacher and wear jeans. This guy is a heretic.


78 posted on 01/10/2019 9:04:59 AM PST by Jack023
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To: Joshua

I’m not sure if that is what Andy Stanley is saying, but I would agree that is what Paul says in his epistles.


79 posted on 01/10/2019 9:05:07 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: SeekAndFind

Pretty shocking.

Andy Stanley is son of Charles Stanley, a Baptist minister in Atlanta area. I have occasionally come across his radio or TV programs and he was solid Bible fundamentalist.

I am fairly certain Andy’s dad would not agree with his theology.

Guess in this case, the apple fell pretty far from the tree—and it rolled a fair distance too :(


80 posted on 01/10/2019 9:05:11 AM PST by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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