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Worshippers in NY Are Turning to Live-Shooter Training in Wake of Synagogue Massacre
The New York Post ^ | 11/10/18 | Dean Balsamini and Anthony Izaguirre

Posted on 11/12/2018 6:41:08 PM PST by marshmallow

The power of prayer can now be measured by caliber.

While a Queens synagogue has hired a heat-packing, off-duty cop to protect its congregation on the Sabbath, Catholic churches have been taking live-shooter training and mulling armed ushers at Mass.

“It’s really all about survival,” said Elie Meskin, president of The Utopia Jewish Center in Fresh Meadows. “We are living in a crazy era. It’s frightening and we have to protect ourselves.”

Meskin, with the blessing of Rabbi Yonoson Hirtz, enlisted the officer a week after an anti-Semitic gunman burst into a baby-naming ceremony at Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh on Oct. 27 and slaughtered 11 people.

Meskin, 67, hopes the plainclothes cop brings calm to more than 100 congregants on edge.

“You are talking about mostly 60-year-old people. We have elderly people. You can’t entrust security to older people by teaching them self-defense or Krav Maga [the Israeli combat system],” Meskin said. “You don’t want to be worrying about your safety when you are praying.”

Meskin said the officer began standing guard at the shul during Saturday services last week and will continue until further notice. The synagogue is paying $45 an hour for peace of mind.

Rabbi Gary Moskowitz, a former cop who founded a group called the International Security Coalition of Clergy, said he has been inundated with more than 150 calls from “scared” rabbis, congregants and non-Jews who want guns or self-defense training, which includes learning how to hurl weights and tomahawk axes.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; newyork; newyorkcity; nra; queens; secondamendment

1 posted on 11/12/2018 6:41:08 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Are they able to even buy a handgun in NYC let alone a CCW to carry one?


2 posted on 11/12/2018 6:52:29 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: marshmallow

What good sized church wouldn’t have layered security these days?


3 posted on 11/12/2018 7:03:02 PM PST by PAR35
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To: marshmallow

And yet they keep electing gun grabbers to any and all political office they can in NYS.

Now that the governor, the assembly, and the State senate are all dem controlled, gun rights aren’t worth squat.

Although, I do know a LOT of gun owners who will NOT surrender their guns.

There are some pretty desolate places in Upstate NY.


4 posted on 11/12/2018 7:05:12 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: marshmallow

Every parish in our diocese has been required to have active shooter training over the past two years. We also have a number of parishioners that are known to pack heat at all times. We will not be sitting ducks if some numb-nut chooses to go berserk at our church.


5 posted on 11/12/2018 8:06:25 PM PST by j.frank.dobie (2016!)
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To: SkyDancer

#2. Don’t know NY Shitty’s gun laws but I know that they are bad and only protect the armed criminals, not the citizens.

However, someone will have to check on City gun laws for shotguns, rifles (esp. 22 cal, 3030 hunting, etc.)

Also, people will have to check their city, county and state laws about concealed carry in houses of worship (and in the case of Virginia), if it is allowed, and if a school attached to their place of worship is , by law, gun-free, which prevents any such attached place to have guns inside them anywhere.

There might be other alternative forms of non-lethal guns (Beanbag shotguns, long-range pepper spray devices, teargas guns, etc. that are legal). Hell, a bow and arrow would be something.

Time for Jews and other sane people from fearing the mere possession of a weapon in their schools/places of worship, etc. and start planning for the outside nut who in going to come in and kill you.

With the massive influx of unknown/unchecked Moslems from violent countries, Hispanics from gang-ridden,crime ridden countries, and assorted Marxist terrorists always looking for an easy kill and media headlines, America is no longer safe by geographical distance or society unity.

Right now “cultural and social stupidity” make America much less safe except for the rich white liberals who live in gated communities, have their own armed security, and who don’t mix with the working class “riff-raff” unless they absolutely have to on the job (but not on their yachts, vacation homes, and Academic ivory towers).

It is time that we Jews woke up and realized that this is 1930’s Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia/Sov. Union “all over again”, and we are one of the main targets of the nuts out there unchecked, in our society, often thanks to the ACLU and supporters of illegal immigration.


6 posted on 11/12/2018 8:50:28 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: marshmallow
Let me see if I truly understand this. Morons continually vote for racist, regressive, fascists with two results: unconstitutional disarmament and the rabid breeding of criminals.

Now as sheeple, they forlornly object to the wolves being wolves.

So they discover that locked and loaded is your friend.

How can anyone with a brain or conscience respect such morons.

They reap what they sow.

Does that sum it up?

7 posted on 11/13/2018 3:23:41 AM PST by Badboo (Why it is important)
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To: marshmallow

But as brilliant as they are, and they are brilliant and very accomplished people, Jews still don’t understand that this climate of Jew Hate is nurtured and promoted by Democrats so they will keep voting for Democrats no matter what. Sad.


8 posted on 11/13/2018 6:32:23 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberal is lies.)
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