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Is lying always wrong?
OSV.com ^ | 08-08-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 08/18/2018 10:09:46 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: nobamanomore

I guess you didn’t quite grasp what the RM was trying to tell you earlier today.


181 posted on 08/19/2018 3:04:34 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: nobamanomore
Yup. It's all...

.. all the way down.

182 posted on 08/19/2018 3:06:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: nobamanomore; ealgeone
I think.....love one another should cover it. And you are the shining example of that?

We can "speak the truth in love". I've never seen ealgeone use profanity against another Freeper no matter how many times he is provoked. So, yeah, I think he is a shining example of proper thread etiquette.

183 posted on 08/19/2018 3:07:37 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: ealgeone

Did you not say exactly what I posted? Remember this is a thread about lying.


184 posted on 08/19/2018 3:08:54 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: boatbums

What do you think?


185 posted on 08/19/2018 3:09:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Don't fail to appreciate the absurdity value. This is a guy who said I committed a mortal sin for saying "Baloney Sandwich."

For the record.....your post is below.

To: ealgeone

Oh, B.S.

By which I mean "Baloney Sandwich."

69 posted on 8/18/2018, 5:56:39 PM by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

Because everyone everywhere when they say B.S. means baloney sandwich.

It's not the first time you dropped some....shall we say....suggestive language.

If you're convinced in your mind you've not erred in this....well....

186 posted on 08/19/2018 3:09:29 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: nobamanomore

I see you continue to bring nothing to the conversation.


187 posted on 08/19/2018 3:10:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: boatbums

No problem.


188 posted on 08/19/2018 3:11:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Fill in my standard rant.)
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To: ealgeone

And did you say that?


189 posted on 08/19/2018 3:15:29 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: rwa265
I realize that you disagree with the necessity of confession to a priest. But given that the Church has been consistent in saying that perfect contrition reconciles man to God before going to the priest, would you please stop writing that Catholics who commit “mortal” sin will keep their priest right by their side to “receive their forgiveness”?

Below is where I got the understanding if death were imminent and a priest is not available the Roman Catholic could ask for forgiveness.

However, outside of that only confession to a priest was the only way for the Roman Catholic to receive forgiveness.

However, if what you say is true.....the need for a Roman Catholic to confess to a priest is not needed for the forgiveness of sins...right?

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God, who created the sacraments for our salvation, is Himself not bound by them. Our sins are first forgiven, of course, through the sacrament of baptism. For post-baptismal sins, the Church has always taught that, for example in a danger of death situation without the possibility of recourse to the sacrament of confession, God could forgive our sins if we pray to him with perfect contrition. The reality is, however, that we can never know if we’ve made a perfect act of contrition.

The Church teaches, therefore, that “individual, integral confession and absolution remain the only ordinary way for the faithful to reconcile themselves with God and the Church, unless physical or moral impossibility excuses from this kind of confession”

(CCC 1484). The great gift of this sacrament is that, if we confess all our serious sins with sorrow and a firm purpose of amendment, we do not need to doubt whether our sins have been forgiven. God created this sacrament so that we might know that he has forgiven us through the ministry of priests.http://www.thelightisonforyou.org/confession/faq/

190 posted on 08/19/2018 3:17:24 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: boatbums

No problem.


191 posted on 08/19/2018 3:17:45 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: nobamanomore
And did you say that?

Did I say what?

192 posted on 08/19/2018 3:18:22 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Oh, yeah! Let's re-litigate this thing!

That's exactly right.

I said and thought "Baloney Sandwich" --- as I explained, it's what my husband and I say all the time --- and then we laugh and go on with light hearts, in peace.

And so, since you couldn't take offense at that, you took offense at what I didn't mean and didn't say, because you thought you knew what I was thinking.

You know, you could play this game all by yourself.

You could read all the parts in the script and move all the pieces on both sides of the checkers board, without anyone else having to get involved at all.

Sounds like a remarkably efficient way for you to conduct your controversies.

I, for one, would consider it a stroke of genius.

193 posted on 08/19/2018 3:23:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Absobloodylutely.)
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To: Salvation
Hence we should be careful not to say that the Scriptures affirm lying in this matter.

There's always TRADITION to clarify things the mere bible leaves unanswered.

194 posted on 08/19/2018 3:23:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Salvation
For your discussion -- "Thou shalt not bear false witness."

Witness is something one does at a trial.

195 posted on 08/19/2018 3:24:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
...google the catholic difference between mortal sin and venial sin.

And then; using a bible; try to find any difference at all.

196 posted on 08/19/2018 3:26:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Somehow; this comes to mind:

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool;
than to speak and remove all doubt.


197 posted on 08/19/2018 3:29:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 21twelve

Maybe HE just changed His mind.


198 posted on 08/19/2018 3:30:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Mrs d.....you have a history of as I said .....colorful suggestions. Seems to be a characteristic of a lot of RCs on these threads. This particular thread is a good example.

I bid you a good night.

199 posted on 08/19/2018 3:30:20 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Tax-chick
unutterable ??

Soon to be EX cretin; I think!

200 posted on 08/19/2018 3:31:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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