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1 posted on 04/13/2018 9:11:43 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 04/13/2018 9:12:40 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

‘In paradise, Adam and Eve possessed preternatural gifts’

Adam and Eve...yeah, ok...


3 posted on 04/13/2018 9:35:07 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Salvation

1st question.....God COMPLETED creation on the 6th day. He rested on the 7th day. There is no more creation! Only a rearrangement of what was already created. We don’t create and Satan cannot create, only God crates.
2nd question.....Everything was perfect pre sin. Sin cursed the people and the creation. The creation groans waiting for the removal of the curse. Eating a piece of fruit DOES NOT KILL THE TREE! I couldn’t believe what I was reading. There was no death in the Garden. They were vegetarians until after the Flood.( Genesis 9:3) When Adam sinned, God killed the first animal to “cover” the sins of Adam and Eve. Cain and Able also sacrificed to cover their sins. The whole Bible is based on Jesus coming to shed His blood to TAKE AWAY sins forever. Animal blood was to “cover sins”.


5 posted on 04/13/2018 11:12:24 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Salvation

Is this the same guy who says there are church services in Heaven? Complete with standing, kneeling, sitting, etc?

If so, the guy is delusional. Kook city.


6 posted on 04/13/2018 11:44:23 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Trump has implemented Supply Side Economics!!!)
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To: ebb tide; vladimir998
More traditional and typical Catholic evolutionism.

Because "rednecks" are such "despicable" creatures that we don't want to be associated with them in any way.

8 posted on 04/13/2018 12:12:10 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Salvation

It’s certainly true that the Garden of Eden was only a place on earth, though also a uniquely special one, and one that the Bible says was made inaccessible to man after Adam and Eve sinned and God expelled them from it. But it really isn’t true to say that death was a part of Eden because Adam and Eve ate fruit in the Garden. The fruit might be said to be “alive” in some molecular way while it’s attached to a tree, but the real life is the tree, and we can be sure that the trees in the Garden didn’t die. And if the trees there didn’t die, and Adam and Eve weren’t subject to death until they ate the fruit that God had forbidden them to eat, we can’t even be sure about the nature of the fruit in Eden and how much eating it would be like eating fruit in this world outside Eden.


21 posted on 04/15/2018 1:22:35 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Salvation
The Monsignor is always interesting but sometimes has incorrect information.

” Microevolution refers to developmental changes within a species or small category of organisms that occur over a relatively short period of time.
- Well no. Any evolution is about a change in gene frequencies. I'm guessing he means a change in gene frequencies within an interbreeding population but the time frame doesn't matter.

“Macroevolution refers to major changes that occur over very long periods of time. For instance, the introduction of entirely new species, genera, families, or orders that are entirely independent of what currently exists. In our times we have not seen this”
- This cannot be about species. Long periods of time are not necessary for speciation and there have been many observed speciation events (This is also routinely done artificially.) A change in taxonomic categories above the species level would fit this word. That would require a lot of time.

I'm not seeing why this matters to Genesis. Creation is finished and part of creation is time itself. We are within time and see the unfolding of creation (Augustine - “Rationes Seminales”)

23 posted on 04/17/2018 10:08:18 AM PDT by Varda
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