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Two Questions on Creation
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 04-12-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/13/2018 9:11:43 AM PDT by Salvation

Two Questions on Creation

April 12, 2018

As most of you know, I write a “question and answer” type column for Our Sunday Visitor. (For those interested, back issues of my column are available here: Msgr. Pope at Our Sunday Visitor.)

I recently received these two questions on creation:

Q: I wonder if God has not finished creating the world, that we are still in the sixth day of creation. Then God will rest.

Perhaps we can begin by distinguishing macroevolution from microevolution and Natural Law from natural variations within that law. Microevolution refers to developmental changes within a species or small category of organisms that occur over a relatively short period of time. For example, humans can live more or fewer years, be taller or shorter. Macroevolution refers to major changes that occur over very long periods of time. For instance, the introduction of entirely new species, genera, families, or orders that are entirely independent of what currently exists. In our times we have not seen this. According to fossil records, certain species have come and gone rather suddenly (by geological standards). Even in those cases, though, one could argue that none of the new species introduced anything that violated the norms of Natural Law; rather, they were built upon it.

Within the species homo sapiens there is observable variety: tall, short, slender, plump, dark-complexioned, light-complexioned, straight-haired, wavy-haired. These are naturally occurring variations within the species. Similarly, the earth goes through cycles of warmth and cold, stormy and calm, quaking and serene. These are also natural variations, not the creation of something new, not the creation of something out of nothing.

Scripture says, Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done (Genesis 2:1-2).

Thus, although your comment is understandable it is theologically questionable. God is finished; whatever evolves does so in relationship to what already is. Scientists may disagree about certain details but would for the most part agree that creation (understood as the sum of what is, obeying certain norms of Natural Law) is stable and completed.

To extend the argument even further (using New Testament language), we are not on the sixth day of creation or even the seventh. We are on the eighth day of creation, during which God renews and promises perfection to all He has made. This perfection will be complete at the great Second Coming of Our Lord.

Q: I’ve heard that with the sin of the first parents, sickness and death entered the world and that nature was in perfect harmony prior to that. But scientific findings indicate that whole species came and went prior to mankind. Comments?

In paradise, Adam and Eve possessed preternatural gifts such as immortality and freedom from suffering. It does not follow, however, that all creation possessed these gifts. For example, Adam and Eve were given to eat of all the fruits of all the trees except one. Thus, even in Eden, some living things “died” so as to sustain others. Further, the Garden of Eden seems to have been a certain location on the earth, not necessarily its entirety.

So, the cycle of living and dying is not excluded by the biblical narrative. From this perspective, paradise can be viewed as a kind of “place apart” from the rest of creation (in which the cycle of life and death is part of the Natural Law God established). Creation did receive additional curses due to the sin of Adam (see Gen 3:17), but these curses likely refer more to the hostility of the climate and the difficulty of man’s relationship to it than to the cycle of death and life.

Creation, though cursed now, will receive greater blessings than first received when Christ comes again (see Romans 8:19ff).


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; creation
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To: Salvation

It’s certainly true that the Garden of Eden was only a place on earth, though also a uniquely special one, and one that the Bible says was made inaccessible to man after Adam and Eve sinned and God expelled them from it. But it really isn’t true to say that death was a part of Eden because Adam and Eve ate fruit in the Garden. The fruit might be said to be “alive” in some molecular way while it’s attached to a tree, but the real life is the tree, and we can be sure that the trees in the Garden didn’t die. And if the trees there didn’t die, and Adam and Eve weren’t subject to death until they ate the fruit that God had forbidden them to eat, we can’t even be sure about the nature of the fruit in Eden and how much eating it would be like eating fruit in this world outside Eden.


21 posted on 04/15/2018 1:22:35 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Salvation

Amen


22 posted on 04/16/2018 3:42:16 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Salvation
The Monsignor is always interesting but sometimes has incorrect information.

” Microevolution refers to developmental changes within a species or small category of organisms that occur over a relatively short period of time.
- Well no. Any evolution is about a change in gene frequencies. I'm guessing he means a change in gene frequencies within an interbreeding population but the time frame doesn't matter.

“Macroevolution refers to major changes that occur over very long periods of time. For instance, the introduction of entirely new species, genera, families, or orders that are entirely independent of what currently exists. In our times we have not seen this”
- This cannot be about species. Long periods of time are not necessary for speciation and there have been many observed speciation events (This is also routinely done artificially.) A change in taxonomic categories above the species level would fit this word. That would require a lot of time.

I'm not seeing why this matters to Genesis. Creation is finished and part of creation is time itself. We are within time and see the unfolding of creation (Augustine - “Rationes Seminales”)

23 posted on 04/17/2018 10:08:18 AM PDT by Varda
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