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[Catholic Caucus] PRAY FOR POPE BENEDICT XVI
Abysussus Absyssum | January 23, 2018 | Bishop Henry Rene Gracida

Posted on 01/24/2018 3:46:11 PM PST by ebb tide

PRAY FOR POPE BENEDICT XVI

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We may never know why he resigned.  I personally believe that the San Gallo Conspirators who did everything they could to prevent him from being elected in the Conclave of 2005, and failed, succeeded in 2013 in threatening the Church with such a financial disaster that Benedict, out of love for the Church and on those countless men and women around the world who depend on the Church for their very sustenance and living, sacrificed himself and resigned the exercise of the power of jurisdiction (governing) that belongs to whoever occupies the Chair of Peter, but not the power of orders.  Jorge Maria Bergolio, who was elected to succeed Benedict to the Chair of Peter in 2013 has chosen, rightly or wrongly, to exercise ALL of the powers of the papacy with the resulting chaos that we are now experiencing.

If Archbishop Ganswein was correct in saying in his speech in the Gregorianum that the Church now has a “shared papacy”, and I believe that he could only have said it if, as the personal secretary of Benedict XVI he knew that Benedict had received a sign from the Lord that what he contemplated doing was acceptable to the Lord, then Jorge Maria Bergolio has usurped powers he was not given.

One has only to look upon this photo of Pope Benedict XVI to see how much he has aged physically since the election of 2013.  My heart aches for him.  I can only begin to imagine the suffering he has experienced and continues to experience as he asks the Lord over and over again, “Did I do the right thing?”

Regardless of your own opinion, pray for him!  Joseph Ratzinger was/is a great priest, Archbishop, Cardinal, and Pope.  Pray for him!

+Rene Henry Gracida


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: benedictxvi; francischurch; papacy
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1 posted on 01/24/2018 3:46:12 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I don’t know a thing about the politics of the Vatican (tho I DO believe church politics is always treacherous, regardless of denomination, and no doubt more so at a center like the Vatican). I always liked and respected Pope Benedict, and neither like nor much respect Francis.


2 posted on 01/24/2018 3:50:31 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: ebb tide

Prayers up.


3 posted on 01/24/2018 4:07:22 PM PST by Bigg Red (Francis is a Nincompope.)
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To: ebb tide

I’ve always had considerable respect for Pope Benedict ... and certainly will pray for him

I think it was pretty likely he was somehow forced out...
he did not really look very sick, anyway


4 posted on 01/24/2018 4:14:59 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: ebb tide

He was forced to resign by Vatican left wing thugs.


5 posted on 01/24/2018 4:17:56 PM PST by I want the USA back (Doing more of what fails is the definition of liberalism and insanity.)
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To: ebb tide

I will pray that he will condemn Francis and Vatican II before he dies.


6 posted on 01/24/2018 4:30:32 PM PST by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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"[Benedict] resigned the exercise of the power of jurisdiction (governing) that belongs to whoever occupies the Chair of Peter, but not the power of orders."

What does this mean?

7 posted on 01/24/2018 4:43:08 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Enquiring minds want to know.)
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To: EDINVA

” I always liked and respected Pope Benedict, and neither like nor much respect Francis.”

I firmly believe Francis is an anti Christ. A very wicked man.


8 posted on 01/24/2018 5:08:44 PM PST by Angels27
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To: Mrs. Don-o
He can still say Mass and administer the sacraments, such as Confession, but no longer has Papal authority.
9 posted on 01/24/2018 6:01:32 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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To: JoeFromSidney
I understand that part, but the context provided by Gracida's statement seems to imply more:

"[Benedict] sacrificed himself and resigned the exercise of the power of jurisdiction (governing) that belongs to whoever occupies the Chair of Peter, but not the power of orders. Jorge Maria Bergolio, who was elected to succeed Benedict to the Chair of Peter in 2013 has chosen, rightly or wrongly, to exercise ALL of the powers of the papacy with the resulting chaos that we are now experiencing."

This hints that we are talking about the "powers of the papacy," specifically, not just the powers of the priesthood.

It sounds like Gracida is saying that Benedict intended to abdicate some of the prerogatives of the papacy, but not all of them. As if the Petrine office could be divided and shared out by two people.

If this is what was intended, I think it possible that that would invalidate Benedict's abdication. I don't see how the papacy itself could be reconfigured on the spot into a two-man office.

Your thoughts?

10 posted on 01/24/2018 6:12:37 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Enquiring minds want to know.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“From the election of his successor, Pope Francis—on 13 March 2013—there are not then two Popes, but de facto an enlarged ministry with an active and a contemplative member. For this reason, Benedict has not renounced either his name or his white cassock. For this reason, the correct title with which we must refer to him is still “Holiness.” Furthermore, he has not retired to an isolated monastery, but [has retired] within the Vatican, as if he had simply stepped aside to make space for his Successor, and for a new stage in the history of the Papacy, which he, with that step, has enriched with the centrality of payer and of compassion placed in the Vatican Gardens.”

“So it is not surprising that some have seen it as revolutionary, or otherwise as entirely consistent with the gospel, while still others see in this way a secularized papacy as never before, and thus more collegial and functional, or even simply more humane and less sacred. And still others are of the opinion that Benedict XVI, with this step, has almost — speaking in theological and historical-critical terms — demythologized the papacy.”

Archbishop Georg Ganswein; May 20, 2016

https://onepeterfive.com/abp-ganswein-pope-benedict-part-enlarged-papal-ministry/


11 posted on 01/24/2018 6:48:24 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If Francis were to suddenly die, would Pope Benedict XVI still be the Pope?


12 posted on 01/24/2018 8:07:05 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide; nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; ...
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13 posted on 01/24/2018 8:20:14 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

Praying.


14 posted on 01/24/2018 8:22:31 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the SEALs of Extortion 17 - and God Bless The United States of America.)
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To: ebb tide

Is he not called “emeritus” which means retired?


15 posted on 01/25/2018 4:36:58 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5W)
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To: ebb tide

Prayers.


16 posted on 01/25/2018 4:39:19 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5W)
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To: ebb tide

Good God our Lord, Jesus Christ, give years to Thy servant our pope Benedict XVI, sustain him and restore the blessed papacy that Thou hast established to its glory.

In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, in the company of saints in heaven, amen.


17 posted on 01/25/2018 5:20:00 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Salvation

Thank you.


18 posted on 01/25/2018 6:24:18 AM PST by Bigg Red (Francis is a Nincompope.)
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To: Biggirl
He didn't retire. He renounced his office:

For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the Cardinals on 19 April 2005, in such a way, that as from 28 February 2013, at 20:00 hours, the See of Rome, the See of Saint Peter, will be vacant and a Conclave to elect the new Supreme Pontiff will have to be convoked by those whose competence it is.

If he renounced his office of Bishop of Rome, Sucessor of St Peter, he is now only His Emminence Joseph Cardinal emeritus Ratzinger.

re·nounce rəˈnouns/
verb
verb: renounce; 3rd person present: renounces; past tense: renounced; past participle: renounced; gerund or present participle: renouncing

formally declare one's abandonment of (a claim, right, or possession).

synonyms: reject, refuse to abide by, repudiate "Hungary renounced the agreement"

So if he truly did renounced his office why does he dress and is addressed as a pope?

19 posted on 01/25/2018 12:56:03 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
No, the Papacy is not a 2-man office. As for what motivated Benedict, and what's motivating Bergoglio, I guess we have to trust the Holy Spirit and await Judgement Day to get the full story.
20 posted on 01/26/2018 6:51:21 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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